'False narrative' from polling may have ended Malcolm Turnbull, says industry veteran

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Political pollsters may need to confront possibility numbers 'have been wrong all along', industry veteran says

Mr Utting — who ran Labor's internal tracking polls for many years, but not in this campaign — said the industry now needed to confront the possibility its numbers had been wrong all along."If the true situation was Labor was ahead, [then] the Coalition was ahead, Labor ahead, Coalition ahead, and it was all a lot closer than it looked, we would probably still have Malcolm Turnbull as prime minister.

Mr Utting said polling done properly was a"fifth estate" that provided a valuable feedback service between elections.of landlines, mobiles and social media, making it more difficult to survey a representative cross-section of society. "The resources required now to put together really high-quality samples are quite considerable," he said.Labor's internal polling was contracted out to the firm YouGov Galaxy in the 2019 campaign.

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Polls remind me of kids running around school saying Jenny is more popular then Michelle. That's literally all it is. It has zero to do with a leader of any party getting the job done.

Obviously its a presentation of a subconscious bias. We all have it. But too much association with only those who hold your views, limits full understanding, regardless of how noxious it is.

Political journalists are not in touch with people........hindsight experts and blaming polls.

Geez I dunno. They ring on my mobile while I’m at work and wonder why I don’t want to talk to them. Could there be selection bias in that alone? Polls are performed in the laziest, least rigorous way possible. Apparently they’re inaccurate.

Oh boy so now the ‘ghosts’ are going to be brought back out by their own bitterness or by swarms of media to go through all that crap again (Face palm)

Wonder how Abbott is feeling he was toppled from PM on polls

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“...wrong all along”. You think

A précis of a question asked by annabelcrabb to the liberal party rep on Election night: Considering the inaccuracy of the polls, will the liberal party continue to sack its leaders solely based on them?

Polls are shown to be on a monumental scale ...

Duhhh!

Phone polling is dead in the water, due to the rise of scam callers. Most people I know won't answer unknown, unexpected calls and when they do they lie to confound the caller. It's predominantly the gullible that answer the pollsters.

The media may need to confront the possibility that they need to talk about something else other than opinion polls every couple of weeks. It is just lazy journalism.

Pollsters are fake news or fake polls 101....and when they ring us or talk to us we say nothing to them ...they are progressive tools...numbers are not wrong it is the people who add up the numbers that are wrong or just left,,ABC you are fake news

Political pollsters are most likely employees of MSM who in turn are owned by wealthy folk who can influence the course of political events. They got it wrong because they attempted to sway public thinking without having their collective ears to the ground.

I hope Barry Cassidy is included in this.

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