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.AndrewBerkshire thinks Mitch Marner's camp might be overvaluing their client during contract negotiations. Do you agree, MapleLeafs fans?

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AndrewBerkshire U take Marner out of the line up watch how crap the leafs become this yr!

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire So you guys just going to keep recycling old topics until they give you something new or whatM

AndrewBerkshire Yes, just go bye bye.

AndrewBerkshire His agent is going to have him sign just before camp. Then he will claim he took a discount.

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AndrewBerkshire Sportsnet is overvaluing Andrew Berkshire's opinion by giving that clown airtime.

AndrewBerkshire Not worth it!

AndrewBerkshire Overvaluing ? The Maple Leafs gouge Fans with 'overvalued' ticket prices. Toronto love to watch a team fail at advancing in the playoffs each year. MapleLeafs

AndrewBerkshire With the Leafs giving Nylander a huge contact before he even proved himself, the Leafs set a presidence .... Now the Leafs will have to come in with a bigger deal

AndrewBerkshire Yes

AndrewBerkshire Trade him. Marner for Crosby.

AndrewBerkshire Given Andrew’s track record, this is huge news for the Marner camp. Their ask probably just increased 10%.

AndrewBerkshire Yes, $8.5 is fair for a 20 goal scorer on the best PP in the league...

AndrewBerkshire Umm how can’t you justify paying him!! I think the goal/assist differential equalize out! Between Mathews and Marner. Now I’m not saying pay them the same but I would atleast start at 11 or 12 mil a year! You know he’s worth it.....

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AndrewBerkshire Which agent doesn’t over value their client It’s all about their commission. If you’re not overvaluing your client, you shouldn’t be an agent.

AndrewBerkshire Highest scoring player on the team is somehow overrated. Got it. Too bad you guys can’t even manage to retain a shred of credibility. Sadly he’s probably going to re-sign with the leafs, then he’ll go back to being the best winger in the league again right?

AndrewBerkshire Who cares what Andrew Berkshire thinks? What’s his hockey knowledge? Biggest plop of negativity looking for clicks. Shame on you for paying for this garbage. Marner is a great player and it’s confirmed as this “writer” is wrong most of the time.

AndrewBerkshire Leafsnet, why is there not an article about the other RFA's from Canadian teams? Coward Dave davecadeau maybe you will finally open your mouth and explain why your network only covers one team. It must really suck to go through life with no backbone Coward Dave.

AndrewBerkshire Is that a real question lol!!! Where’s the offer sheet 😂

AndrewBerkshire He is worth 8-10 million, definitely not more! Let him proof his worth first, including the playoffs where he was a non-factor last spring!

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AndrewBerkshire Yup!

AndrewBerkshire Yep, win a Cup first and then name your price!

AndrewBerkshire Yes. I like Marner I do. However to say that he deserves anymore more than 10.5 is absurd. He’s good, but he can’t carry a team like McDavid; like the money he’s seeking. At least not yet.

AndrewBerkshire If he's not signed yet, then yeah!

AndrewBerkshire Andrew Berkshire lolololololol

AndrewBerkshire “Officially” what has Marner’s agent said he is worth? Oh wait it’s all speculation

AndrewBerkshire Look at the source and move on. Nobody following hockey knows less than that clown.

AndrewBerkshire Please don’t get yourself fired dubas and sign this guy to any more than 9 million a season

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Yes. In fact, if we find a trade that makes sense I would take it. kyledubas won't be able to talk the Marner camp down to what he's actually worth. The Marner camp is delusional. The Matthews contract was a failure (6 years would have been okay), we can't afford another mistake

AndrewBerkshire Hes the best plauer they have had since gilmour pay him whatever

AndrewBerkshire most certainly they are. needarealitycheck

AndrewBerkshire Marner should get 13 mil per year for 8 years. Well worth it as Marthews will be in Arizona soon.

AndrewBerkshire He is worth 11+, but only at 8 years.

AndrewBerkshire If he gets his teeth whitened... sign him

AndrewBerkshire Let Montreal make an offer sheet

AndrewBerkshire Yes. And Mitch should find himself a new agent and if necessary a new Dad. Perhaps JT could step in and be his dad.

AndrewBerkshire how long before the media is told to put out the ' this could be the year' stories....'really, this could be the year!!!' they should just copy and paste them by now

AndrewBerkshire Nope hes worth what he ask...and these articules wont help the Leafs at all

AndrewBerkshire Only a writer paid by the Leafs would say something like that. Get a grip. Pay the most talented guy on that team what he deserves.

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AndrewBerkshire Yes

AndrewBerkshire Who cares

AndrewBerkshire Leafs should trade Nylander & give Marner what he asks for!!!!

AndrewBerkshire He will be there for game one

AndrewBerkshire deserves the same or more than Matthews. nice try.

AndrewBerkshire Yes

AndrewBerkshire If Marner knew what it was like to live pay cheque to pay cheque he might have said yes by now.

AndrewBerkshire They definitely are

AndrewBerkshire Ya think?

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Max I'll pay him is 9.5, if he and his camp cry about it dont let the door hit them on the way out

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AndrewBerkshire Team scoring leader 2 of the last 3 years. Pay him what’s he’s worth on and off the ice. They backed themselves in a corner. Not his fault.

AndrewBerkshire Well I guess

AndrewBerkshire Everything written about the situation this summer has been pure speculation. I doubt anybody really knows anything but Dubas and the Marner camps.

AndrewBerkshire Fully agree his agent is just trying to get an extra 500k from the leafs

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Toronto can't seriously believe they will be competitive by sinking almost 50% of their cap space into three players They will basically be JT, AM, MM, and the Marlies. Even as good as those tope three are, they need a supporting cast to be great.

AndrewBerkshire He is the best player in the world. That’s why Islanders will offer him $9.5/m a year

AndrewBerkshire Marner had a career year because he was playing with JT! Put him on another line and the results will be different!

AndrewBerkshire Mitch's camp vowed to not negotiate during the season. They wanted to go last. It was a gamble and they lost. Cap came in lower than expected. Agent messed up and is trying to save face at great cost to his clients reputation.

AndrewBerkshire This guy lost all credibility when he said a 94 points guy with 224 career points over his entry level is worth below a player with 66 points and 108 career points on his entry level and Marner only scored 4 goals less than him

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AndrewBerkshire Leafs fault for caving into Matthews. Now he wants close to the same & I can’t blame him for that but if he wants to be the highest paid then I would agree that that’s to much

AndrewBerkshire Maybe

AndrewBerkshire Like I have said before “Mariner’s contract should be equal to or greater than Matthews....Marner is an around positional player that plays both ends of the rink....Marner will finish his career with less goals but a lot more points than Matthews”

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Who the hell is AndrewBerkshire ? WinterPeg must have froze his brain? Tavares missed 15 goals on passes from Marner and I love ZachHyman but he isn’t Draisaitl either. How many did Zach miss? NBA wages soon lol

AndrewBerkshire I think what all of leaf Nation can agree on is that we are tired of hearing about this story. Everyone knows Mitch Marners camp is overvaluing him and he is being greedy. He is suffering in the public eye because of it.

AndrewBerkshire Hells yeah

AndrewBerkshire Over valuing hes the leafs best player ffs

AndrewBerkshire If the media is this bad with a local kid being unsigned can you just imagine what they would be like if the kid from Arizona was unsigned? They would of been 10x worse and Habs fans would be all over these boards claiming he will come to MTL. AM would give them the same as JT 🖕

AndrewBerkshire The guy is worth every cent. Best player on the team

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AndrewBerkshire I’d say over valued by 2-3M AAV from what I’ve seen! Love to keep him obviously and signed sooner than later!

AndrewBerkshire Who is Andrew Berkshire?

AndrewBerkshire Let Marner go , he will be the most hated player in the league for fucking up the Leafs plans ...so good buy loser ...

AndrewBerkshire Agreed. Marner no doubt is a great player. But the fact is, you take JT out of that center spot and he doesnt put up 94pts. I would bet the farm on it. So if another camp wants to overpay i would say sorry and let him walk. It would be Mitch's loss.

AndrewBerkshire Dime

AndrewBerkshire 9.5 and not a fine more ,if so good buy .

AndrewBerkshire Berkshire is stunned and should ignored.

AndrewBerkshire Yes! He has his whole career to make a lot of $$ he doesn’t need to have a max deal for the first one

AndrewBerkshire Nopeeee

AndrewBerkshire Too funny. Marner is evaluating against the leafs salary scale which was set when Mathews and Tavares signed. Nothing more. First and biggest mistake was not doing them at the same time. He should get exactly what Matthew's gets because he is MILES better than him.

AndrewBerkshire The only thing I agree with is that the daily Marner contract stories need to stop.

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AndrewBerkshire Very much so, and Mitch Marner is my favourite player. His camp have severely overplayed their hand.

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AndrewBerkshire He is your top scorer and younger uh yes

AndrewBerkshire Wow!!! They are just finally realizing that!?!!

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire At this point, I don't care if Marner is a Leaf or not. I just want to know what the final verdict is so the media can finally shut up (this is coming from a Leafs fan)

AndrewBerkshire Must be a slow day in sports bringing this up. Marner is not worth those $$.

AndrewBerkshire Yes

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AndrewBerkshire Didn't want to negotiate during the season Wanted to be the last signed out of the 3 Has no comparables Wants to be the highest paid winger in history but only with the term he wants Agent and father complain to the media and use Dreger as their offer-sheet puppet FOH

AndrewBerkshire He's worth more than Matthews.

AndrewBerkshire he’s not worth it and his fanbase are some of the worst in hockey - get rid of him and get the “good ontario boy” types away from this team

AndrewBerkshire every contact should be performance based.. the better you play the more you make rather than seeing these guys sign for $10 million and scoring 10 goals lucic

AndrewBerkshire Worst agent in pro sports DHGHOCKEY Ferris and Pauls interference.... Marner93 probably hates both rn

AndrewBerkshire Derrin Ferris is nothing but a jackass!!

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AndrewBerkshire They are.

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Are you trying to say that Mitch 'McDavid Money' Marner ISN'T god on earth?

AndrewBerkshire Garrett Sparks fault....

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AndrewBerkshire Think is as good as AM and JT but he’s not a Centre....so

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire 💯 agreed that they're over valuing

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AndrewBerkshire Marner is worth 10 - 10.8 million.

AndrewBerkshire U can say that again first sensible comment I heard on this issue !

AndrewBerkshire Marner is a great player, but not worth Auston Matthews money. He needs to fire his clueless agent. An entire month has gone by, haven't seen an offer sheet yet, and won't see one.

AndrewBerkshire Yes he wants Auston Matthews money and he won’t get it.

AndrewBerkshire Hasn't this been the consensus for the past month

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Might? Camp thinks they're worth more than Kucherov

AndrewBerkshire You don't say

AndrewBerkshire Marner worth more than Matthews! Better puck skill and he plays every game. Not always hurt!!

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Absolutely agree. John Tavares points only went up by a couple this past season. Meanwhile Marners sky rocketed, so it isn't hard to see who is propping up who.

AndrewBerkshire I think the deal is done. Enjoy the rest of your Summer

AndrewBerkshire Finally a guy who makes sense and stating the truth

AndrewBerkshire articles like this are why no one likes Toronto. He’s worth Austin Matthews money because he is as good if not better/more important than him

AndrewBerkshire Marner needs a reality check, his points totals went up because he had JT as a line mate .

AndrewBerkshire How to lose readers: 'Andrew Berkshire thinks'

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Excellent discussion. Can't blame agent for trying to get max value, BUT if they (& player) continually over-price then impasse happens. Other RFAs hang in limbo. Only three reasons to wait: * offer sheet anticipated * better deal day 1 of season * expect Leafs to buckle

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Well obviously. By a lot apparently. Where are all those offer sheets? Ferris managed to turn a fan favorite Marner93 into one a villain this summer. Good job, good effort.

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Of course, he's literally trying to become the highest paid winger in NHL history when he's still an RFA

AndrewBerkshire He’s 10ish, end of discussion. If I have to explain then you haven’t watched all three of his seasons (61-69-94 pts) However If he plays like last season consistently then give him more at next contract. Thus sign a 3 year at around 9ish and let’s move on. Go Leafs Go baby!

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Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire His agent is notorious for screwing over his clients by over valuing. Makes me question Mitch's intelligence because it seems like he actually believes him. Either way this kid is in for a rude awakening and he is 110% more greedy than Nylander ever was, hometown kid my balls.

AndrewBerkshire 100%

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire Berkshire uses actual evidence to support his arguments so yeah, he's probably right

AndrewBerkshire If he's not ready to go for the start of the season I'll be pissed regardless what he thinks he's worth

AndrewBerkshire AM34 is worth it.

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire 9.5 max

AndrewBerkshire It's less about whether Mitch is a great player. The real question is whether he is a marketable commodity. If Mitch's presence on the Leafs roster puts more butts in the overpriced seats at ScotiabankArena, then he's worth whatever he's asking.

AndrewBerkshire I'm honestly surprised and impressed that more Leafs fans aren't piling on to say hes overrated here.

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire well, um, yes. The smart fans agree

AndrewBerkshire Oh really.. 😳😳😳😂😂😂😂

AndrewBerkshire Hell ya.

AndrewBerkshire No he was way better then Mathews and Matthews is 11.6

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire I think people need to stop acting like he’s the only RFA still on the market. UNLESS he’s the one holding the market up.

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire But how does this effect the Leafs?

Steve_Dangle AndrewBerkshire If him and Rantanen sign for under 10 mil they should fire their agents.

AndrewBerkshire Well im not a part of contract negotiations so id say i have no idea whats going on

AndrewBerkshire But what does he think about Boeser, McAvoy, Raantenen, Point... there are more RFAs than Marner.... talk about them once and a while

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AndrewBerkshire Adding another layer of distraction from playing the game.

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AndrewBerkshire His agent has no clue and will never in his life again get a pay day like this.. he knows that.. so he is pushing hard for his retirement... this has gone beyond Mitch, the leafs and even Paul Marner.. I’m telling you this kid needs to fire his agent and take the 10x7 years

AndrewBerkshire Getting an offer sheet seems more appealing g at this point

AndrewBerkshire None of them should get that type of money until they can demonstrate that they can escape the first round of the playoffs...

AndrewBerkshire Hell yeah!! That boy needs to be shaken!! It’s like he’s holding Toronto hostage!! Call in the squat team!! Come out , or be gone!!

AndrewBerkshire Marner93 'On Ice' value maxes out at $10M .. anything higher is overpriced ... is 'Market Value' in Toronto is immeasurable! He could make as much money as he likes depending on how many endorsements and autographs he wants to do. In another market that might not be possible.

AndrewBerkshire He will look great as CanadiensMTL 😄

AndrewBerkshire I think the Toronto sports media is overvaluing this whole thing.

AndrewBerkshire yes, they are. but the name of the game is changing and marner is only pushing it as far as he can. only issue is it may end up with him being moved at some point.

AndrewBerkshire I think the Leafs and Leafs media made it easy for Marner's camp by touting Matthews as a 'Hall of Famer' after a half a dozen games and continued to do so even when he was obviously outplayed by Mitch.

AndrewBerkshire He’s worth it. If AM & JT’s worth it, then he’s worth it too.

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AndrewBerkshire Nope not doing it

AndrewBerkshire I believe he is a great player, but not worth that money. No reason for him to make that $$ value. His camp is is hurting him now, looks too picky

AndrewBerkshire MapleLeafs made a huge mistake! They should have signed AM34 and Marner93 to $10.5 mm each + ‘A’ on their chest. just like Chicago with Toews and Kane. Huge mistake for the Leafs!!! Management must go!!

AndrewBerkshire Marner not worth 10-12 millions like they think . Max 8-9 millions per years . Over that they should trade him

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