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Twitter and Facebook both banned Trump from their platforms. Here's why that doesn't violate the First Amendment — or any other laws

But Trump's implication — that Twitter somehow violated his First Amendment right to free speech — is a complete misunderstanding of what the First Amendment says.

Here's why Twitter and Facebook, like other social media companies, have the right to ban Trump, and why Trump and other far-right politicians often take it out on Section 230.respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" [emphasis added].

 

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Suppress Ed freedom of speech!

These people are rejecting to trump for a long time the president 45th try to destroy him. The democrat try to lie and cheat of all vote. Maybe raping all systems.

Mark? You have also banned Donald from any further correspondence? Can someone please explain why?

China & Iran shut off the Internet too. Way to go USA !!!

It violates the moral law and our collective belief that these were free speech democratic forums. We stand corrected and recognize they are just like FakeNewsCNN

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freedom of speech? wow people are so hypocritical sometimes. once they fight for freedom and other times they just remove the ex-president's account from social media because of a different opinion. let’s be equal i guess

Good show everyone your true communist colors.

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That's why 230 should come in all these companies should let everyone say their peace they are selective China 🇨🇳 the worst with crimes against humanity and Iran can tweet

So banning someone from a tech platform is different than not baking a cake for a customer you don’t want to business with? Wow I learned something new about constitutional law today on Twitter!

You can't yell 'Movie!' inside a crowed Fire House.

One opinion, one rag magazine that preys on events and exaggerates its content in order to make itself more appealing to investors, subscribers and advertisers.

It’s the beginning of socialism controlling Free speech

'A riot is the language of the unheard.' - MLK, Jr. , Sept. 27, 1966 Democrats, MSM, and big tech's answer to the problem is to further silence the unheard. FirstAmendment MorePerspective

saturday Twitter & Facebook are so hypersensitive & reactive that they have lost any logical reasoning about freespeech as who we are as Americans. In censoring Trump they’ve send a message that we are like those totalitarian countries, Read on

So while not violation of law you are ok with people not accountable to anyone but themselves deciding? Sounds about Communist

COUNTERPOINT The question is whether the spectrum of Twitter, FB, Youtube, Google, and Amazon are now necessary infrastructure for communication and commerce and practical monopolies, and as such subject to radio, tv, cable, telecom, power, regulation. Yes, but for Congress...

The issue is he’s targeted and other world leaders and influential people aren’t. Iran’s leader threatens Israel, denies Holocaust and spread a hate for Jews period. Twitter doesn’t ban him, why?

This is Trump's reaction to being banned.

You all don’t have a problem with big tech refusing service...but a Christian who doesn’t believe gay marriage is right should be forced to officiate or host a wedding against their beliefs. Liberals are the party of double standards.

Where was the moral outrage when stores were burned & looted and the police were attacked during BLM protests? SelectiveOutrage 1stAmendment

It may not legally violate it, but it violated the spirit of it. If the founding fathers wrote it again today, they would definitely include it as protected.

'Rights aren't rights if someone can take them away. They're privileges. That's all we've ever had in this country, is a bill of temporary privileges.' GeorgeCarlin

adirtyhippie To those who are mocking the idea that 1st amendment should protect being banned by private companies on social media because of something normally protected, I want you to ask yourself, 'do you think having an online presence is necessary to thrive in modern American society?'

OleanderNectar I am so done with explaining reality to insurrectionists.

Think of Twitter as the Christian Bakery and Trump as the gay wedding cake. The first amendment’s right to criticize the government does not apply to a private company; you have to abide to the Terms and Trump did not.

Are people (his fans) upset because they feel trump's rights are being ignored, or is it because they love reading his rhetoric? If the latter, let him right another book. Any ghostwriters available?

No justification needed.

Your article completely leaves out the point that if Social Media bans people & becomes a Publisher, their shareholders are at great risk going forward. Boards should remove leftist CEOs! WomenOnBoards CorpGov WomenCorpDirs

CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Only dumb motherfuckers even need this explained to them.

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No it doesnt.This protects truth and the idea of Vocal freedoms so new more liberal or new more conservative ideas or laws can change and improve society. The whole idea of a democracy is the ppl and their ability to keep a harmonious balance in our society so all ppl can thrive

The fact that y’all have to explain this—

Heres why you are fing aholes

No shit it doesn't violate the law, but the cops who killed Breonna Taylor didn't violate the law either. The concern is in the real world, how do you communicate to a large audience almost instantly- social media. Concerns isnt law here. Its silencing. Period.

The very fact that it needs to be explained that this is NOT an infringement of rights is a problem.

As if Twitter, facebook and instagram weren’t created by the government .... funny how the corona hoax is okay to spread disinformation about. You all control the narrative don’t you? Heaven forbid people start waking up to the truth.

If private companies are going to be arbitrary in their determination of what content will or will not be published, they need to be held accountable for that content. RepealSection230

Who elected Big Tech to be our sheriff? Where was the public discussion about the benefits and costs to society of 'banning' some people vs. free speech? It may not break laws, but this is not how a free society should work.

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You can’t yell “Fire!” In a crowded movie theater if there is no such fire. That’s why banning trump isn’t a 1st Amendment violation.

It's beyond me why we need articles about this. Twitter is not the government. The First Amendment allows us to redress our grievances with the government without getting arrested. That's the difference. It doesn't apply to private entities.

terms and service agreements on a private service. How the hell did you stretch that sentence out into a full article?

is it okay to ban TRUMP? ok maybe yes But what about the accounts that encouraged looting in blacklivematters or antifa conflicts? What about Maduro's accounts encouraging fantasy drugs against covid? That's fine ?

But the Ayatollah... a man that observes PUBLIC STONING OF WOMEN in Iran ....still has his !! .... no...that's not violence!!! ....... FirstAmendment

so.. Just wondering. If i have a restaurant called 'The Twitter'. Fancy place, every one can come enjoy a meal. Can I kick you out because you are a Muslim and are talking about your views?

1/6 - Day of Constitution day when every media outlet that is under FCC control be devoted to the Constitution. A test will follow- multiple choice and essay on January 7. AMERICANs to vote must pass the test, just like the DMV. Every year, everyone.

We need to repeal section 230 and then we don't have this problem, do we? repeal230

Those also give millions $ of cash to democrats, do not censor any China bullshit propaganda or condem them for sending the virus over, do not censor any BLM bullshit.

All private companies can do what the as far as banning people

Because the First Amendment applies to the government. Social media isn't run by the government.

its a business not a government stupid morons,, they can ban whoever they want

True but are they purging and shredding the personal data of the individuals they ban. Because that's twitters business model - you surrender personal data to use the platform.

All these democratic media platforms censoring Trump because he told his followers to stop the violence. and they say he’s the fascist...

I get Trump getting banned 100% it should’ve been done back in 2015, but why is Parler being removed? I know it has a bunch of right wing conspiracies and such but does that not infringe 1st amendment rights? Genuinely asking.

First amendment gives folks the right to say whatever the heck they want, but doesn't mean you can yell 'fire' in a crowded theater. This is why you can be sued for libel, slander, or get booted from any social media for violating their TOS. It's not rocket science.

What ever happened to unbiased journalism They already defend it in the title?

Yaaaass i love it when mega corps circumvent the bill of rights using terms of service

If Trump’s speech was found to have incited the riot (highly likely) then even if the Government censored Trump’s speech, the 1st Amendment would not protect him. Even the govt can censor speech that incites imminent lawless action. Here, his speech likely did just that.

Great article. Thank you so much for the info on this! TylerSonnemaker

This is not an attack on freedom of speech in this country. This is an attack on idiots who believe they have the right to misuse social media to incite violent riots, period. Nothing more.

Because they're private businesses, not government entities. Don't need a full article to explain something so simple. Sadly, those on the right who try to tout their love for the constitution seem to know almost nothing about it. They think seat belts violate their rights...

Precisely. You can't violate terms of service of a private company and then scream 'my first amendment' when they decide to take appropriate action. Twitter & Facebook were too relaxed with Trump for too long. I support this move to ban him.

Oh I forgot the house members okaying blm riots were banned for them also right

“But Facebook and Twitter are private companies...” -Someone who doesn’t believe in free speech at all.

Hey now can you tell us why it does violate several anti-trust laws for several companies to collude with each other to close the public square which they control? You can't deny that Twitter, Facebook, Apple, and Google together can control speech and therefore are breaking laws

The courts would tell him to go to Parler would they not?

It violates free speech ON PRINCIPLE!

It doesn't violate the first amendment but it does violate the liberal value of free speech. I don't want some corporation deciding what is good speech and what is bad speech on its platform, just as I don't want the government deciding the same for society.

When MSM takes a side, we can bet we should be on the other.

Unfortunately BI your article contains words, which might be difficult for any given Trump supporter to digest. Are you able to redo, and just make it pictures?

BAKE ME A GAY CAKE, BIGOT.

The fact that it has to be explained 'why that doesn't violate the First Amendment' is exactly the problem w/ this country...

businessinsider is defending the technocracy being used to silence unpopular speech. here's why they're retarded

He's like yelling 'FIRE' in a crowded theatre - it's NOT freedom of speech. And frankly, imo it's time to OUTLAW, Nazis, White Supremacists, & any other groups that OUTWARDLY PROFESS HATE against a group of people and act violently. Enough already.

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Trump is on PARLER. Plse sign & share petition to ajassy CEO of awscloud to indefinitely suspend PARLER for violating their Customer User Agreement by planning, inciting and amplifying violence.

Republicans are stubborn not sure they will get it - it is not what they want to hear

CRATERING on MONDAY? 📉 Donald Trump put Twitter on the map and now they BAN their MOST POPULAR USER? 🤣 Nothing like alienating over 50% of the public to probably send your stock price spiraling 😳

Suppress and control what you want the public to see. Don’t allow the public to form their own opinion because it might not be what you want it to be. All the $$owners of social media platforms all share the same ideology. twittercensorship

Too little, too late. Having acted much earlier could have avoided much of the Jan. 6 insurrection.

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hblodget Trump has supporters - and right to communicate to them Government employees - jealous of Trump having supporters social media following govt orders

What does America’s amendment have to do with an international platform?

Meanwhile in twitter

techinsider It doesn’t matter. It’s the principle of right vs wrong and American values.

Twitter/Facebook when it comes to accounts like this: 🙈🙈🙈 RegulateSocialMedia RegulateBigTech DigitalDictatorship

FUNNAGAN Trump War Room is still up

Censorship like in USSR and China.

Twitter and Facebook are the fascist social media of the American deep state!

Obama killed hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East. Bush also became a partner in this murder. Why Twitter and FB did not show the same reflex? This is evidence of fascist social media's relationship with the deep state !

Trump: Be grateful for my lies.

Big techs didn't stop Trump it's simple to understand... Godcomment...

Fake news, the tongue of CCP

Sure! Twitter bans US president for not being aligned with their policies US should stop supporting Twitter with section 230 for not being aligned by constitution eliminate230

Tread carefully Business Insider, they can come for you next!

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It’s not illegal, no. So are a lot of irresponsible and reprehensible acts. Well, you made the bed. Sleep in it.

Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, and China are proud of Twitter and Facebook.

Trump is not yet matured

why they don't ban Obama?. He is responsible for more than 26 000 bombs in Syria in 2016. Seems like Syrian people don't matter.

Can't believe this is being debated...if it was a person of colour...must people would say it was deserved...love how the amendment only pertains to certain people in 2021

Anybody who's ever taken a tablet from a toddler knows that the Trump aides are in for a very rough night tonight.

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