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Police Minister Bheki Cele says some of South Africa’s laws need to be reviewed because they favour criminals and not victims.

KZN Premier Nomusa Dube-Ncube, Police Minister Bheki Cele and Minister of Water and Sanitation Senzo Mchunu attending funeral service of Juda Mthethwa.KZN Premier Nomusa Dube-Ncube, Police Minister Bheki Cele and Minister of Water and Sanitation Senzo Mchunu attending funeral service of Juda Mthethwa.

He was addressing thousands of mourners at the funeral of anti-crime activist Sipho Mthethwa in Manguzi in Northern KwaZulu-Natal.He was gunned down last week outside his home.“There is something that we need to fix, our law in South Africa is wrong. I’m telling you the killer, as we are going to catch the killer, is going to jail. They will have access to hot baths, have three meals a day and get the best medication.

 

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When are you going to arrest the murders who murdered AKA the time is gone .This must be not the repeating the same of Senzo Meyiwa.

Bring back the death penalty might be an incentive

Very true criminals have more rights than victims

He got that one right thank you Mr Cele

OMG what a great discovery!

Start with the broken window theory. Stamp out the small crimes like driving in the yellow lane, vandalism, j-walking etc and the bigger crimes will become less because people will realise if they can't get away with something small, they can't get away with murder.

Innocent people are dying every day in SA but nothing happens to the killers or criminals

They claimed we have the best constitution in the world and these 🤣🤣🤣

I must say.. First time ever he speaks truth!! Build more prisonz.. those that float!! Far in the ocean..

I stand with him on that one

I agree with him, 100%

How many times this is said, he is just saying

Good day the should have done that many year's ago.

Other than the laws pertaining to BEE, and the FCA, can anyone cite an example of a law which favours criminals over law-abiding citizens?

Finally he said something sensible.

Uhhhmm.. I'm confused..lost for words.. don't know what to say.. FOR ONCE.. I agree with with him!

Then expect more apartheid from these ones..amalgamated with SABC. Whatever law it is. I know. It's for enslaving poor innocent South Africans. Remember, here. The criminals are the ones running the country. Whatever crime SA'ns do. Results from the work of these guys.

It's not the law. It's the lack of an effective police service that favor criminals and the fact that the police are criminals themselves.

One of the only times I have to agree with the Minister.....

I agree

The whole lot of the Constitution of the Republic of SA must be reviewed. It's too liberal and exploited by thugs from levels.

Definitely the laws must be reviewed.

Police ministry must be overhauled,from the top,to the last,PERIOD!!! ALL POLICE STATION COMMANDERS MUST BE RESHUFFLED AND PUT UNDER SCRUTINY police must cleanup they department before they can be trusted to protect us,must put citizens and they own families,interest at heart🙏

Is he at last waking up.

More propganda from the Racist news organisation who bow down to Nazi's and Murderers. The world will make you oay for your crimes scum.

They will say anything to try and stay relevantnor to be seen as they are doing something..... How many times has this been said previously. Very very useless being

We think the way Ministers are employed should be investigated. They too favour the wrong side!

For once he said something that makes sense

This guy is gold!

You don’t need new laws just bloody police the ones that is there

Long time they supposed to review dead penalty killers don't worry about sentences they used. Only dead sentence can stopped high rate of killing but we need brave minister, president and party to bring back dead sentence to solve killings

Strengthen parole conditions, bring back Death penalties for murderers ☠️

Only now you see it, we've been saying that since your democracy started.

Lol it favors his friends

Namibia is worse

We WAZ knew it mos...🙃🙃 Mr Hats trying to be a genius. We don't pay these people to come tell us what the problem is. We pay them to FIX these things.

What a point🤞💯

Sounds like we coming up to an election soon!!!

MhuriroFarai But who makes those laws?

Funny how they know what needs to be done, but they are not doing it.

Very true

Wow

Are we seeing some sense and sensibility?

Bheki is dodgy.

Change the satanic constitution. That is the source of the problem.

Bheki should read what has been shared on Twitter about high-ranking SAPS members aiding corruption. No names mentioned, but it wouldn't surprise me if he was involved.

A sad day 😡😡😡😡

He should be very specific about those laws and stop beating around the Bush

Which act to be specific ?

Too much human rights

It's fine you will be unemployed come next year

Including him

He only raised this issue now? I mean if the comrades were taking people's concerns seriously they would have already amended parts of the constitution by now

Yes the favour corrupt ANC/Government

Just getting the police right will reduce crime by 40%

That’s what ministers are meant to do, introduce new laws to parliament.

He is right. The experience of activists in the past fighting against apartheid informs most law. But we don't have apartheid, there was an over correction. But he must submit the Bill to parliament, amend the constitution and fight crime.

Banjalo when elections are on the way, progressive rethoric.

Stop telling us what he said and show us what he has done

Criminals' operations are not dictated to by the constitution. Their functions allow them to kill, so already that put them ahead in the battlefield. Whereas officers are killed while still balancing between their lives and the constitution. Laws need to change.

He says some which means most don't have a problem. So how about he enforces the ones that protect citizens. At the moment there is no enforcement at all! And those rape kids backlog, he can directly do something about it. The blame game of anc politicians is tiring!

The laws are great, the issue is the guys and girls implementing them. That the problem

I agree, one of them is the legal aid board service very unfair to tax payers, come to think of it, criminals have access to free legal services but law abiding citizens will not qualify when employed.

Start off with death penalty

Yup, change the law to deal with gangs in particular….

love be with all of you

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Yep. Like cadres. How many have been arrested for eating govt funds like the Eskom employee charging R 84K for knee pads

He evidently is trying to lobby to remove himself from govt

Something positive from him

they're campaigning hard for 2024

Talk, talk and more talk! Actions speak!!

No lies…it has been like this for years now!

You see when you are educated for your position you hold? you will speak like that. what need to be changed is him.

So says the teacher

True certain laws favour criminals more just like those that favour kids over their parents,however we all know that, now what is the anc members like that minister doing to remedy the issue?

Will the Ruling party be reviewed as well ?

Comrades

Election time, more of this will come.

I totally agreed with the minister 100%

Yes like arresting the home owner for defending him/herself against intruders. These kind of laws need to be changed like forever ago.

True

He needs to be reviewed

The only time we can all agree with Cele, is when he says that our country's laws favor the criminals more than victims. He should still do his job though, which is to protect and serve the public. Under his watch, crime is definitely the worst it ever was, undoubtably.

That means the ANC will face prosecution then? All you had to do was to build infrastructure, manage tax funds and keep South Africans safe. But now the Guptas grabbed you by the balls and you destroyed all government entities. Now we are grey listed as well.

2014 elections will make us hear funny things that anc can say

He is the biggest criminal

Absolutely.... for once he has spoken some sense .

Oh shame now he realised but his part of the crime syndicate

He only realized this now

Wow 😳 first time I hear him talk sense

It's a bit late you wanker

He is only realising that now

Let’s hope they make it better.

Kudala sikusho lokho. Police apprehend criminals, courts release them.

Here in Syria my colleagues keeps asking me to clarify if Cele is the Minister or Commissioner nor Spokesperson of police When I tell them is the Minister, they don't believe me not sure why though.

The only thing that needs reveiwing is ANC AfricanNationalCircus

Wow and after how many years u realized this

He probably wants armed robbery legalized

After almost millions died.

He and is fellow comrades should know

They favor you

Too late!Pretending he cares whilst singing for his supper!

REF:📧 PrisonNumber221245320🆔 🧐 CaseNumbers ⛓️ •287/08/2021 + •230/08/2021 = Backlog 📍⚖️

Yeah. But he is literally going to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about it. I’m willing to even place a bet.

Oh what a shock we didn't know that for the past 29 years of the ruling party MYANC what a shocking discovery this is... It will sure be a game changer after so many years. So funny this is said now because things are not going their way.

Give this men a Bell's his finally thinking!!👏👏👏

Indeed. They favour the criminal anc and eff.

I agree with Minister Bheki Cele on this one, it can't be business as usual

No shit sherlock

Ask him to name one. He is the problem

BhekiCele you are a disgrass to the human race. You a d your gangster mates

Election talk! Three days after the elections all this is forgotten water under the bridge. I don't believe a word they say anymore.

He is right

They were made by criminals first the National Party then the AnC

E jwalo🤞

🤣🤣 it's more a matter of you not doing your job. You useless.

His telling the truth

That's long overdue, the implementation of these laws resulted in Bosasa corruption.

It’s always something or someone else’s fault

😂😂 he is going to do nothing about it ….. he is afraid to upset NGOs that will take him to court and put anti-human rights labels on him

Does it make a difference? The SAPS CSCs dont want to make IR entries, and if the do, detectives are overworked so close the dockets, and if they make legal for prosecution, they usually dont go for prosecution, and if they do, the case is thrown out ....

First time I’ve heard him talk sense

Uyadakwa Lona he must start with judicial system

Now Cele will be demoted by saying the truth 🤞

Why tf is he telling us for? 🤦🏼‍♀️ His party has the majority in parliament lol

Lollll!!!!!!

He needs to go. He is useless.

He’s not wrong - favouring mainly ANC cadres though!

On his way out and realises it only now ~ blame it on the system

I support him

Are we suppose to clap for him now? He said what ordinary South Africans have been saying for the longest time now.

I swear this guy acts like he is not the police minister or in government sometimes..I guess its only when beach goers need to be attached during covid

Pfft . Are these ppl sleeping or what My word .

I fully agree

Mxm

No amount of written laws can fix a corrupt incompetent police force, and a dysfunctional captured judiciary

Correct it's time to shoot and kill

So what happens when the state is in autopilot...the citizens point out something, the politicians get on a podium and say it back to the citizens, the media reports it and we move on. I hate what the ANC has done to our hopes for this country.

Has Bheki Cele been told something we don't know, what's this PR stun for ? 2024 elections?

Eg. The land laws

Mfimmmmm

Exactly change the old constitution. Change it ASAP!

We've been saying this for years, now cos is Bheki Cele saying it maybe they will amend some laws

Yes like yourself and your President.

After 3 decades in power When did he realize that?

Mxm iyooh

How he starts doing the proper investigation work to convict the criminals...

29 years later 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤠

He came to that realization after how many decades?

ANC had 30 years to do this Ke gona a bona today ?

Convicted criminals or criminals who are protected from prosecutions? Too rich for a man suspected of being an underworld operator. Cato Manor Unit under his leadership was fingered as servants of Taxi warlords. Minister's Sdu times were crimefree and bloodless? Nah Mr Cele. No

1st time he speaks sence...

Doos

Like the restrictions placed on law abiding citizens to own and use firearms

I think before reviewing laws we must weed out dirty cops and give more training to our police men and women. Only an educated, well trained and honest & disciplined police force can change the situation, Mr Cele.

Welele lembuzi, khane ibona🙄🙄

Perpetrators are given lawyers that are being paid by the state to grill victims,what a country

For the first time I agree with him 200%, but he should still be reshuffled ASAP.

Good grief he should not speak . END !!

South African cannot debate. We are not talking about bheki but an issue of law. Should we review our law or not. In nutshell most of you agree with him.

The lights are on but nobody’s home!

Mara how come? Is it the truth?

What?

Bheki you are one of the biggest criminals. Let's start with you

It's high time

He just discovered gun powder.

Kuze ekhulume into enenqondo uBheki

SAPoliceService ; no shit Sherlock? You only figered out now? After how many years in office?Strange that this being said now so close to 2024 elections?Some more empty promises to gain support and after elections still nothing? Guess will promise anything

He should take a look in the mirror!

Review by who did u make any formal submissions about that ? SAPoliceService MYANC ConCourtSA

Mxm

That's the 1st sensible thing i heard Cele say.

Nobody will care about anything until the REAL CRIMINALS (ANC) is behind bars and loadshedding has been sorted

If you can ask him which acts need amendment I can tell you he will fail to make a reference. He is just talking to pass time like all ministers

After so long he only say it now,no he must save it we waiting for 2024 elections

Out of his depth. Resign

Does he mean that the laws are not B.E.E. compliant

How long have people been saying this to him?

So he just discovered that 🤷🏾‍♂️

Rape victims been saying this for over 20 years The minister only realising now. Wow.

Truth at last one is seeing that.

They speak as if they are in opposition benches and not in charge of this country.

Yes it is true... but why realize it now only?

Shifting goal post

No shit Sherlock😳😳 How many years has it taken you to work that out🤮🤮🤮

He speaks as if he’s a spectator

Democracy in an unequal society was not the way to go most laws can't be changed, it will be infringing the wright of others like this confused constitution they've adopted still deprives those who were marginalized to make progress to property wright.

Guess who are the criminals benefiting from those laws…

He must relax. The next government will take care of that…

Failed minister amd failed government

True

Wow,and so says the pre-school teacher.

Like it favours him and Ramaphosa

GOOD IDEA Human Abuse and crime stats will be reduced let us love our country and have our own country laws not FREE AND FAIR ADOPTIVE LAWS

For example Minister?

Do you still listen to these ministers mara? Mxm

For 30 years now.

Nothing is going to work for as long as we live by the rule of men

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😵‍💫🤡🤡🤡🤡

They should bring back death penalty

Well we've waited long enough😶

Spot on as law-abiding citizens we also need more power to defend ourselves against these ruthless criminals especially when it comes to robberies,house robberies,burglaries and home invasions we should be allowed to defend ourselves at all costs

What a load of crock! All you need to do is to implement the laws properly, but first resign because you are useless and get the police service trained properly and tell them to stop taking bribes.

Yet those laws were created by the anc criminals

The ANC must change the law because they have majority in Parliament.This man must just sit down and shut up.

When will b that

Be specific Mr dobs, ke ur so called constitution

For sure 🤞

Criminals are safe in South Africa 🇿🇦.

Here I strongly agree with him.

for how long have we been saying this... Election2024 is doing its magic.

I've been saying this for just because I'm not famous. Also Law favours ANC Mafia's. If Magashules, Mantashe,Gigaba ,Dlamini,Malema, Zuma n em are guilty of recent scandals. Why are still paying hefty checks?

We've been crying abt this for long time. We endup taking laws with our own hands

True

These guys fail and think the issues are with inadequate laws. The laws are there, they fail at execution because they field the wrong people. They appoint criminals to fight crime and expect what? Come on!

meaning to benefit more criminals? Take the fkrs to the ICC... some just aint getting it, laws do not prevent crime. ONLY AFTER the damage is done, if lucky, the law comes into play... jeez,

Just like the laws favour corrupt politicians. That too needs to be revisited

This man was fooling us yesterday, I was there. All he said we had expected it. The borderline project, which was meant to help prevent stollen cars from crossing to Mozambique, was halted because of the ANC corruption. We wouldn't have found ourselves losing such a leader.

🚮

Mxm

He is right. They should start off with questions for those they appoint as magistrates and judges about patriotism. The judiciary have established a parallel government, though unelected.

It took them long to realise it

Really. After 28 years.

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