In response to a question from Newzroom Afrika, Mawkana said:"We can't give you a 'how bad' answer today, for the simple reason that the week-to-week forecast of load shedding is shifting as we improve, [for example] where there [are] parts replacements, where there [are] the different maintenance schedules that are ensuring that other units are coming back on-stream."
"As of 31 March, we are looking at edging closer to, as fast as possible, a 60% energy availability factor," he said.
_Business I wonder what was the response of Minister of Electricity 🤔
_Business Dream on
_Business I hope he starts with municipalities paying overdue electricity bills, totalling +52 billion. SouthAfrican income tax payers r gatvol of this parental/patriarchal/semi-chastising KAK. We r literally the only ones working in this country – shove it up your fokken Mpho-po hole!
_Business When fools rule, incompetency and corruption flourish!
_Business Is he prepared to resign in two years time and refund every penny spent on him for merely talking sh*t?
_Business Funny. When De Ruyter said that, he was called all sorts of names. Julius_S_Malema what are you gonna say now? I'd love to see how you're going to 'demand electricity' on the 20th - if there are magical ways of creating it, you really should let us all know...
_Business I have lost all faith and don’t believe this
_Business I didi lelo
_Business Haven't we heard of this 18 months before 🤔?
_Business They been saying that since still trying to figure out who is voting for ANC.Anyome but AnC plz!
_Business Is it 2 years X 2 years X 2 years X 2 years 🙄🙄🙄🤣 we've heard it all before.... Bla bla bla
_Business 'South Africans need to play a role in reducing the demand' What the fu**😂!!
_Business Poephol
_Business qamba amanga...
_Business How do you reduce something that is not there already? Mehlolo
_Business This one🤔, sure sure🤷🏾♂️
_Business Welelele🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️
_Business Why do we have to listen to this captured aok
_Business Useless board me Useless board members
_Business Ramaphosa said the same before and when deruyter took over. It's crickets, really.
_Business ADR said the same, look where we are
_Business Its been taking 2 years for the past 10 years. Somehow nobody beleive this anymore.
_Business So let us get the benefits of installing Solar and selling excess back to the grid
_Business Then reduce our rates... We pay for a service that you can't provide.
_Business South Africans will generally generate their own electricity within their own communities over time, and when Eskom attempts to impose a 'solar tax' we will see Etolls2 loading 😉😂😂😂
_Business So this 18 months is not reducing, just keeps on being 18 months forever we rule? 🤔
Bluehawktactic1 _Business And the government should play a major role of getting rid of corruption
_Business I don't depend on EKSDOM but good luck to you. In your 2 years there will be more illegal connections, non payments, sub stations being vandalized, cable theft.... Let's see if you can fix that.
_Business The ANC is finished! Come 2024, Action4SA will deliver an HISTORIC upset countrywide. voteoutANC
_Business 🙁
_Business Reduce demand? Sure, cut off ALL non payers, immediately
_Business Replay 2015 - 2017. Do they think we are stupid?
_Business Blah blah blah blah
_Business No. You want to privatize the profit but socialize the problems.
_Business 6 months!!! Asign a task force for repairs to the coal plants. Assign 3rd party security Stop exporting our coal. Boom problem solved
_Business Solution: Cartel steal 10% and leave the 90% for the country. Or has greed become the opium of politicians and their cronies
_Business The Absolute Sheer Arrogance. Goodness 🤣
_Business Listen mate… YOU don’t get to tell US what to do when it’s YOUR buddies who have done the damage! Sit down and do some work!
_Business 'Play a role' Wtf!?!!
_Business The new Electricity Minister saI’d it’s “high irresponsible to predict when loadshedding will end”, so which is it?
_Business Government is fixing loadshed with plans that are not shared with the masses/citizens as to give answers on how/when/by loadshedding will be solved. Secrecy in all this loadshedding plans makes some of us doubt this Matamela thing.
_Business he must tell anc to stop overloading grid just to get more votes that style has cost us deally🤞🙆♂️
_Business government said they can fix it in 6 months. ?
_Business We heard this before..🫣🤣🤣🫢
_Business I am sure the time frame is the last thing required here. It’s the actual plan and then timeframe based on the plan. We have heard these “1.5-2 year” timeframes before and nothing came of it. THE PLAN🙏🏽
_Business Reduce demand!! economic and population growth comes with higher demand. That’s not even including the access still to be implemented!! Am I missing something here! We need more power….quickly
_Business ANC is worse than DSTV, the same ship over and over again. They are on auto-replay. More of the same, just harder.
_Business Always takes “2years” in the speeches.. but we know.. they will be replaced by another Cadre who will tell us it will take…..”2 years” 29 years later.. it will take “2 years”🤡
_Business 👇
_Business Msunery
_Business Tsek.
_Business He must say that in person uzobona
_Business We don't have another 2 years of lies, anc is lying they want 2 years to go over polls. If loadshedding is there after 2years, will they give each and every citizen a million rand?
_Business We already played our roles by BUYING prepaid electricity. Where is that money hmmmmm? Why should we get punished for those who steal and EAT EVERY SINGLE DAY?
_Business Dear ryter said that too. Where are we now?
_Business South Africans have been plying a role for 28 years and all you have done is eat the money. To-date all we ever hear are empty words. Nothing has changed
_Business That was said 2 years ago , and 2 years before that and before that and and and
_Business So we must reduce using power, reduce using water, reduce using petrol, reduce flying, reduce using the post office, reduce going to parks,
_Business ESKOM’s frivolous strategic meetings will do little to stop years of institutionalized corruption, mismanagement, and incompetence in SA’s power stations. Fraud, corruption, funding constraints, poor planning, and shoddy work are behind our power utility’s horrific decline.
_Business While also paying more
_Business BoMpho batletse hodlala waitse 😑😏
_Business Eish! Eishkom is stuck on a repeat button. Nothing new. Where's minister Electricity?
_Business We have heard this from 2018
_Business You ppl are sò much in love with 18month Is 18months you're lucky mumber?
_Business 🤡🤡🤡🤡 the ANC caused loadshedding, they need to play a role in stopping something they caused, not us! Fokoff useless.
_Business Sounds like the ex CEO timelines that everyone said was unreasonable
_Business Not our problem, it's a GOVERNENCE problem. MYANC Stop telling citizens to take responsibility for your issues, keeping us all poor&broken so that you can continue to loot us. We've been raped in every way, Stop telling us what to wear instead of changing your rapist behavior.
_Business We've heard that fairytale before. After 2yrs we will hear another fairytale. The middle class will move to solar power and you won't care about the poor.
_Business Why don't we believe you!?
Michell19653046 _Business This is all OLD BULLSH!T. The Anc is a fkg joke.
_Business Okay how does that logic work .Insane price increases allowed by NERSA because eksdom applied for it with the excuse they did not earn enough revenue due to the reduced sales we the consumer that gets no less than 8 hours of PEAK loadshedding as is must still reduce further ?
_Business Eskom has been used by the ANC as a political “benefit” when they took over as government their biggest brag card was that they rolled out electricity to everyone knowing they’re not investing in sustainability but we ALL pay more? Why?where’s the 💰 we paid
_Business I’m so tired of all these conflicting messages...just get it done already...,shut up...and do it...dammit
_Business Another WEF puppet
_Business Book marking this 🤣
_Business How about all the corrupt thieving despots who all have their hand in the cookie jar *F* off & appoint honest staff with integrity & get it sorted without having to cut back on supply to your loyal paying customers.
_Business Liar.. Like all your predecessor's
CoruscaKhaya _Business If we reduce demand, it means that the economy is shrinking not growing. It means consumables increase in price and don't decrease. It means that people are loosing jobs and no new jobs are created.
_Business People 2 years ago said it will take 2 years. Maybe he means never!!!
_Business Its summer right now and what you gonna say in winter
_Business Don t tell us to resuce demand when you have switched off and laid aside some of the generators and diverting coal out of country.
_Business How can we South African people reduce the demand while the people from other countries are flocking here in 100 of thousands!!!! This need logic
_Business We have been playing our part by working our arses off and being taxed moertoe for this clown of an organization who needs bail outs annually! Voetsek
_Business Lerete lee ke engineer? If he shut his ass up
ayshamoolla _Business Cannot reduce what we don't have
_Business ANC will NEVER fix loadshedding
_Business Here's an idea. Switch off people who don't pay their bill, like soweto for example.. Since they haven't paid for it they shouldn't have it. That will reduce plenty demand. And now I await all the racist replies from twitter.
_Business We were told that four years ago
_Business BS. The ANC clowns been promising a fix forever. They can’t fix anything. ALL they know how to do is STEAL.
_Business Eskom needs to publish a list of monthly practical outcomes set for each of the 18 to 24 months ahead (cant be so hard) and then publish monthly progress reports on whether goals were reached. Hmm, wishful think - maybe monthly PAIA applications for the info would be better ha
_Business
_Business 🖕🖕🖕
_Business Lolololol FUCKING joke tell that to your president
_Business Oh where have we heard this one before
_Business But that’ is what the former CEO was saying from last year what’s changed
_Business We Ain’t waiting two years. The next government will switch the lights on themselves and cancel all international agreements regarding this matter. We don’t need wet cats 😒
_Business More incompetence
_Business We can't play our role more to what we been doing now since you are the ruling party. What role have you played ? Zero just keep on corrupting . Don't shift your responsibilities to the public zero can we do to stop stealing. If we can we want you out
_Business What demand? Wanyela o
_Business Sadly the man doesn’t really know! No one knows if or when loadshedding will end. It’s a mystery!
_Business Futsek
_Business How about you cut all those illegal connections to the townships of people who are not contributing to the payment of Eskom so that the ones who are paying can enjoy the electricity supply meant for them
_Business Eskom has 46,000-48,000 electricity capacity. Please explain how you going to fix the 15,000-18000 unplanned breakdowns, this figure never comes down and hints at sabotage. SA peak demand between 32,000-36,000, no plans to fix the problem, SAfricans must reduce demand, real joke.
_Business Laugh out loud..president announced at SONA..loadshedding will be gone in 1 year..now electricity minister say 18months plus..
_Business Starting when ? As the predecessor said the same ?
_Business Balls!
_Business Eskom_SA
_Business This is now funny everyone of them always says 18months meaning 5yrs....
_Business What this guy is saying, 'We f**ked up. Now you fix it! '
_Business
_Business The faces change but the nonsense stays the same
_Business Nothing happend in the last 18 years. Neither will blackouts end in 18 months. We have all seen this movies before
_Business Genuine question, what role can the public play to reduce demand? We would like to assist, but what can we possibly do? How can we reduce demand for a product that is never available, honestly people just say anything sometimes.
_Business The day our hackers decide to release these people's money transactions then we will know how much the country was sold for,
_Business 🤡🤡🤡
_Business We can fix loadshedding provided you don’t use electricity
_Business We don’t need a timeframe we need them to publish their plans for eskom what they doing to do to end load shedding and please not renewables that’s a scam
_Business He looks sooo trustworthy
_Business Also...I wonder where the yappers are , IE:- the EFF...had lots to say about Andre , but now we hear nothing....anc/eff same boat...scumbags ..
_Business How about getting everyone to pay their way for starters...and tackle the finger in the pie syndrome by the anc...stop the criminal activities...but noooo...u tell us citizens, whom pay their way to take the plunge...the friggen nerve...
_Business It's been 18 month since last year December. Kanti when is this 18 month starts? 😂😂😂
_Business Easy to say, sitting in your Ivory Tower!
_Business Futsek Eskom the power stations should be pushed to generate 70%their capacity. Stop the transportation of coal by road,insource the repair and maintenance.
_Business 😂😂😂Another De Ruyter 18month to 2years!
_Business They will be long gone by that time
_Business They say 18 months, what is the plan? Their is high propablility comes 18 months their is still problems, remember what they said in 2013, six months, 10 years later country wide black outs,and their is suspicion of 100% black outs come winter.
_Business Tsek!
_Business So they promoting the purchase of renewables and will perpetuate the suffering of the poor for the next 2 yrs while they push so called affording to put themselves into debt,borrowing to buy renewable energy sources thus enriching the capitalist that is forcing move frm coal
_Business It seems like everyone runnig Eskom under Ramaphosa hates South Africans
_Business Eskom is already reducing demand on our behalf. So we must stop using electricity completely or?
_Business The root of the problem is money,govern. is broke,with money u can fix anything in quick quick time,they went and spend all their money on these power stations including the two new'DUD'power stations,they spending all of their money patching up and patching up and patching up.
_Business Mxm he's lying
_Business I wonder what Sputla is saying Is he also saying 18 months loadshedding will be history
_Business WE DONT BELIEVE A SINGLE WORD THAT COMES OUT OF ESKOM. Guranteed: In 18 months when the country is still stuck in the stone age, they will be saying the same thing as what Ramaphosa said in 2015. 'Loadshedding will be a thing of the past' yeah sure ...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
_Business We' re in month 3 of 2023 and it's still 18 months to 2 years!🤔 Something tells me it will still be 18 months to 2 years in December.
_Business Need to stop exporting power to neighbouring countries while we sit in the dark
_Business He says with a big grin on his face
_Business How much do you get paid for talking shit?
_Business 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
_Business Hearing yhe same shit every time. 18 months to 2yrs phokoff VoetsekANC .its been more than 10yrs
_Business I don't believe what the vermin says.
_Business So 2years of state of disaster? What a joke Eskom_SA is !!!
_Business All lies
_Business Yawn - same story since 2003
_Business He is the chairperson. Knows f--all about operations. Too eskom and the anc govt, 18 months to 2 years, is like a buzzword. Buzzing like flies on a turd.
_Business I’m really tired of be told to reduce consumption of electricity when any effort to do so draws ridiculous taxes. Taxing solar? Does eskom/anc own the sun, wind and/or waves?
_Business When is off counter date.. They said this 2 months back and its still 18 months....
_Business Then government should stop imposing Eskom on us as the only electricity provider.
_Business So they have another 18 mts to loot
_Business Get off your butt and disconnect every illegal connection and cut non payers off and give us the tax payers what we are paying for! 18months... Let the milking begin!
_Business It's important to build and maintain infrastructure that sustains livelihoods!
_Business 😂😂😂
_Business We reduce demand 6 hours a day( sometimes 8). Why isn't it fixed yet?
_Business He is out of reality, Eskom (Officials) provides plaform or access for illegal connections that continue to drain the power system so that they continue to borrow and loot
_Business They have been 'fixing' loadshedding since 2007
_Business Looting criminals
_Business Same old story. We must reduce demand really ... we may consider your statement when you reduce the demand from the criminal factions that clearly never get mentioned yet they are bleeding the system
_Business South African citizens must continuously bail out the $% useless and corrupt ANC and their supported officials
_Business Know your ANC
_Business The aim is to confuse SA's so Eskom can be handed over to private sector
_Business 2 years ago it was going to take two years to fix.
_Business I fill up petrol for my car and you instruct me not go drive to so many place to reduce consumption.
_Business Uyahlanya lona. Is he an Electrical Engineer? It so sad that the Electrical Engineering Faculties in own SA universities are dead quiet😶 regarding this matter. A matter of electricity supply and them being the issuers of PhDs. Bathule?
_Business This same story again, maybe try something else 🤔 we don't believe a damn thing u say
_Business Know it's our fault
_Business Same tune every year.
_Business If it's not fixed in 2 years will he submit his resignation?
_Business Where I work, we don't sleep until it's fixed Mr Eskom_SA 🙄 And we don't blame our customers when we cant ❌ But hang on we don't have a monopoly on a national service we can't actually provide. So if we can't do it, our customers are free to buy it from someone who can 💡
_Business Another 18 months 😂😂😂😂😂
_Business Here's another plan; while Eskom reduces supply by 50% and consumers reduce consumption by 50%, Eskom must reduce it's middle management costs by 50%. Thereafter, reduce the tariff by 50%.
_Business And then after two years? Still not fixed!!! Admit, please!
_Business MYANC Eskom_SA ParliamentofRSA GovernmentZA When China experienced power challenges due to extreme weather conditions they first approached industrial entities which were consuming a lot of electricity and rationed them accordingly. Decisive Leadership!!!
_Business Keep on saying & saying & sayi..............
_Business We heard this 13 years ago 🙄
_Business He received the same script as De Ruyter back when he started
_Business This whole thing is a joke... currently everyone that can afford it balck & white is getting Solar and dumb Eskom is in the end going to sit with the same people who is not paying them now!!!! What then?
_Business He can reduce demand by cutting off people who have generators and Solar systems in the households
_Business Ag! Phuq off!!!!
_Business He can start with his own lifestyle and household. Show the rest of us how it is done...
_Business Rubbish! Reduce what demand when their job is the production of electricity and for them to meet the demand.
_Business So South Africans must reduce the load!!!! If there is no demand there is no need to fix load shedding. This is the chairman's logic of probably the most important SOE. Nkosi Sikilel iAfrika!!!!
_Business We pay why should we reduce our usages... the ANC screw us on every corner 😒
_Business In Kimberley, street lights are on 24/7 but we are told to reduce demand. The Sol Plaatjie Municipality is setting a wrong example. Who will bother to inconvenience themselves when in the evening some areas are in the dark whilst in others there's wastage of lights burning 24/7?
_Business Another ridiculous statement from these guys. How do we reduce demand, when the country needs to operate?
_Business Bull CRAP! Get rid of the syndicates and terrorists breaking down the generators immediately!! Send in the HAWKS arrest and throw the terrorists in maximum security prison! 😉👌
_Business If I didn't work half the time, then demanded a raise, THEN told my boss he needed to expect less from me, do you know what he would say? But it's Eskom and its 'executives' so we don't do a damned thing. Eksdom 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
_Business Sounds familiar
_Business We are forced to use less, not by choice but by your corrupt officials who are more intent on stealing money than actually doing what they're paid for. Reduce demand, what a bloody joke! You show us how first, I bet you sleep every night with aircon!!
_Business They've been fixing this loadshedding. How long have you been fixing loadshedding? They were fixing it for two years even now. Ah.
_Business What a joke, how do we reduce our consumption when we don't have the product for nearly 50% of the time?
_Business My daughter turns 12. I remember clearly coming home to frequent power cuts when she was born. That's when I got a generator. It's been years nyanc. You guys are getting worse.
_Business Mxm
_Business Every reduction in use means less income for Eskom, even if they get going again. Nobody will switch off their solar and, at the current price of electricity, people will remain careful, so who will they sell to?
_Business Always the citizens who have to do more.
_Business Ask him how long will it take to dismantle the hold the four cartels and two cabinet ministers have on Eskom!
_Business These blacks who are privileged
_Business Yhoooo 😭😭
_Business The only way to reduce demand is if more than half of us flee the country
_Business Minister of Electricity says 3 months
_Business Andre De Ruyter said it and was removed - how long will you last sir?
_Business We heard this before 🤔
_Business What role should we play
_Business Hd can’t just talk, he must produce a plan/programme on how they’re going arrive there, we’ve been lied to too many times too ok believe anything without producing material to hold them accountable with
_Business Didn't Ramapromise say the same in 2015? VoetsekANC2024
_Business How can a company that has to make money to improve its services advise clients to use less of its services?
_Business after government failed dismally now the consumer must generate his own electricity and use less, the height of arrogance
_Business Exactly what De Ruyter said. Funny that...
_Business Why must it be the citizens that suffer so much. Why don't they speak to the biggest consumers of electricity for them to reduce demand.
_Business He must just piss off.
_Business By that time we will have another couple of million people unemployed & a lot less investors even the population will be less coz those who can will leave this broken country Rock on 2024
_Business It's never going to happen with our current leadership
_Business This genius needs to step out of this glass castle and take note that South Africans have been playing their role to conserve energy usage. He gets paid a fortune and this is what he comes up with.
_Business Leliculo alisekho mnandi
_Business We can't be reducing demand when we have to work.
_Business Maybe you should try selling chickens,pwr delivery not your game
_Business Niyasisanganela Nina
_Business Reducing demand? Has this twat been under a rock for the last 15 years? We have to spend obscene amounts of money to keep our businesses operational, exactly because there is no power supply. These people are living in an alternative universe.
_Business We must face reality and work together as a nation to comeup with solutions
_Business I legit do not like this guy - And I do not think he has any idea what he is doing
_Business I like how he makes it the citizens' fault we are here 😂😂😂 like they didn't know getting more folks on the grid was gonna need more capacity and upgrades to the infrastructure... Nah it's the citizens' fault, like why do y'all exist?
_Business Interesting how EFF Cape Town march is sending most of you to cringes because wow eskom woes and activism around it is pretty much credible when it’s dispense by you lot , yes “YOU” right now no one is harassing you about your keyboard activism though , so continue ….
_Business We have heard this before, he is setting himself up for failure...... Ramaphosa boldly declared something similar years back
_Business He’s honestly crazy the fact our productivity is hampered due to blackouts. We’ll play our part by using the tax incentives to put panels on roofs and build external storage capacity(batteries) to charge off peak. Play your part and decapitate corruption with full transparency
_Business For a backup setup 📞 0765835569
_Business Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't reduced demnd equate to lower less income for Eskom and does that not mean tjat Eskom will need to ke increasing the price of electricity on a more regular basis just to break even? By the time loadshedding ends, those on solar won't return.
_Business U f it up to start off, what will change now?
_Business Yes, South Africans must play their part. By getting off the grid and not having to put up with the bullshit.
_Business This guy must be removed ASAP
_Business W cape says will b loadshedding free u come talk about reducing demand wtf
_Business I have been hearing the 18 months story for some years now.
_Business Very funny the citizens must play their role stop demanding electricity that's funny in a sad though
_Business Doesn't know what he is doing.
_Business there are so many internal and external factors that work against eskom being resuscitated. unbundling has begun and any serious person with some means will definately not wait for eskom recovery. Time waits for no man.
_Business Reduce demand? Bruh that’s like telling a starving person who paid for fillet mignon they didn’t get to hold back from eating a bread stick. Reduce? How about you increase supply. Tell the presidential cartel, all corrupt parastatal employees et al to pay back the money and…
_Business Voetsek.....you are a service provider and you are not doing YOUR job properly.
_Business kant nenza into engekho impela
_Business All South Africans need to take their voting role more seriously next year. Otherwise this perpetual failing government will only continue. Vote with your head and not only on past emotions. CarpeDiem SouthAfrica
_Business Last year December they said 18 to 20 years 😂😂 Now we on March still 18 to 20 yrs
_Business We are so tired. Just shut up.
_Business If MphoMakwana wants South Africans to play a role in reducing demand, the government NEEDS to embark on a family- planning drive!!!! Stop breeding like rabbits
_Business It's been 15 years already. 🙄
_Business You already reducing the demand on behalf of us. What you mean?
_Business MbalulaFikile PresidencyZA MYANC LoadsheddingUpdates
_Business and you increased the prices in the meantime. You get half units of the amount you pay. eg R200 ..... 100 units ' if u are lucky'
_Business Together we can !! 🙏🏾
_Business They said the same thing two years ago.
_Business What is his job?
_Business Voetsek !We heard this crap before and nothing happened ,its gone 15 years .
_Business Lies, same song. Eskom_SA GovernmentZA PresidencyZA CyrilRamaphosa
_Business How about getting rid if excess employees , jailing criminals and stopping wastage?
_Business Another De Ruyter promises
_Business 'Play a role' yok'nuka! Don't involve us in your fuck ups!🤨
_Business lionthree7 this made me so angry! What do you think we SA’ns have been doing? Carrying the bloody economy, that’s what. Coping despite all odds, with resilience, that’s what. Instead of shielding the fat cats, why don’t you play your role for South Africa?
_Business Credibility yale ndonda ingathi ilokuntengantenga. Early this year, he said the EAF will be at 60% by end of March. Eskom execs recently said that it's not attainable. Him saying loadshedding will end in 18 months, sounds like another fib.
_Business But we have been playing our part by paying …. Have u been playing ur part? Thats the question 🤦🏽♀️
_Business Since 2014🇿🇦President singing same music 🎵 🎼 🎶
_Business It's always 'South Africans must play their role.' Corruption and incompetence have crippled us, yet we must now be patient and accept there's no shortcuts. Stealing for years, and we must be ok with it.
_Business Actually what an unintelligent statement. South Africans are reducing the load due to loadshedding pfffft
_Business Yes we were told that 2 years ago
_Business By that time it will be ready for the new CEO and a new round of checkers.
_Business No
_Business That's what they said 5 years ago...
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