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“A newly qualified nurse will typically earn over £31,000 a year” - Steve Barclay MP Basic pay for a newly qualified nurse this year is around £27,000. The government says this rises above £31,000 if you include extra earnings like overtime.

), explaining that it included “overtime and unsocial hours”, but his tweet did not include this caveat., which says: “Full-time basic pay for newly qualified nurses starting at the bottom of Band 5 will increase by £1,400, equivalent to nearly 5.5%, to £27,055 from £25,655 last year. This means they will typically earn over £31,000 a year including overtime and unsocial hours payments.”, it is also common for nurses to work unpaid overtime.

The latest report said: “Data from the Royal College of Nursing Employment Survey found that 77% of members said they work beyond their contracted hours at least once a week, and more than half of nursing staff reported the additional hours were unpaid.”

 

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...’overtime’ is a choice made by staff significantly underpaid and with rising overheads, it’s not something to be included as a ‘basic’ except by a Government unwilling to fund NHS staff properly! 🤔👏

I suppose the natural thing would be to include all extra payments an M.P can make from outside sources as part of their salary and compare to other peoples earnings?

BREAKING: A newly qualified nurse can earn as much as a Tory MP if they work 20 hour shifts 7 days a week. COME AND WORK FOR THIS WONDERFUL SYSTEM.

alastairdick so what he stated was true, nurses are not low paid, it is not a bad job, otherwise why would all training places be oversubscribed each year

Noname06401912 I can't begin to count the number of overtime hrs completed without pay. Barclay lives in cloud cuckoo land.

😡 You can't expect truth from a Tory SteveBarclay

So is false, basic pay is 27,000 as no one is obligated to take extra shifts

£27,055 🤔

Why should they need to work overtime? Oh, Tories have reduced numbers of nurses and failed to increase them sufficiently so their mates offering contract nurses can rake it in at £2500 per shift.

A passing relation to the truth, at best.

Grumpy_Steff Why would he know? He’s only been Health Secretary for 5 mins

Is the government saying this is truly typical (median?) for new nurses, or just that its possible to earn this much?

so if nurses typically work overtime then Steve is correct

A newly qualified nurse starts on band 5, as they normally work shift work they then receive enhancements for working unsociable hours ie weekends & evenings plus any overtime they choose to do.

The term “typically” does a lot of heavy lifting in politics.

“The government says this rises above £31,000 if you include extra earnings like overtime.” This is a bit like saying that a waiter in a restaurant earns above the minimum wage when tips are included…oh wait a minute, they can’t do that any more. So why is it okay for nurses?

Overtime should be a choice not a necessity to staff a ward or to make ends meet. When you're made to or guilt tripped into doing overtime it becomes forced labour. It's no wonder thousands are leaving nursing.

If the lazy buggers took two full time jobs they’d be earning close to 60k a year….nowt wrong with that ££££££

It also takes 3-4yrs to be a newly qualified Nurse. But it takes mere popularity to be a newly appointed MP on £84,000 for 5 years (not incl. Pay Increases, Subsidies and Expenses)

Swiss Tony lying whatever next

spanna65 Then you deduct the huge debt student accrue due to fees and student loans.

Typical trumped up rubbish that anti unions spout about wages. Mention the highest earning train drivers, include posties working a 6 day week so that people say it's a great wage. £27k is adequate, no more no less. Politics of envy, divide and conquer. But people fall for it.

EmpickaLiesel Tories lie, don't they.

Fact is we’ve had suppressed wages for years now so people think £31k is a good wage ….. good luck looking for somewhere to live on that budget .

Is overtime typical because they are permanently short staffed?

And then subtract the car parking fees.

Full Fact contacted the (DHSC), which told us Mr Barclay’s figure was an estimate that included both basic pay and additional earnings, which covers things like overtime, unsocial hours pay and supplements for those in high cost areas (for example, people who live in London).

Aren't they also counting pension contributions and average sick pay, as if it's in your pay packet?

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