Notably, the Xbox owner said that parity will also apply to streaming and subscription services, confirming a“Any CoD Game in a Microsoft multigame subscription is eligible for inclusion in Sony’s multi-game subscription service, at the same time and for the same duration,” Microsoft claims in its response.
However, in its own response to the CMA’s findings, which were also published on Wednesday, SIE claims that Microsoft’s subscription offer isn’t as appealing as it makes out. Microsoft would be able to “drive up the price for Call of Duty”, SIE claims, which it alleges would force it “to raise the price of [our] MGS service, or not offer Call of Duty on MGS at all.”
Hahaha now the courts will get to see how Sony is blocking competition with contracts blocking content from other platforms. While the cry foul to the regulators. PlayStation sucks like their hardware and software. No RDNA2
Yea thats a smart business decision
They still said no....
The quickest way to kill this franchise is sticking it on subscription services day one.
I’m sure there are tons of small contract details we don’t know
Watch it be locked to the premium tier
I see a microtransactions filled future fast approaching. Stupid thing is PS+ users don’t even really own the game. Well, in reality no one really owns the games they purchase anymore, even some in physical format.
Like what else will Phil do? I think that offer is way too much personally
Why did sony say no😥😭
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Just remaster the Killzone series and call it a day.
Never trust Microsoft with anything especially video games! Their horrible track record says it all.
Another lie by Microsoft
'P-Please validate our failing rental service business model'
Yeah for the next 10 years and then after that no more cod for PlayStation 🤷♂️
At what cost
Translation: 'come on sony play the netlfix game with us where we have home court advantage.' Screw MS and their dystopic 'rent everything for perpetuity' vision of the future.
Sony still crying about a video game Wow lol
Ok that's kinda ridiculously generous come on
They should take it and not be snobby nose and try not to block it all together
They are fed up with the same. What Sony needs to do is make an FPS and that's it... or bring Socom back. Leaving CoD in ps can be a curse. sony has so many good studios that they can make a good FPS. they can do something new and fresh.
I can’t remember the numbers but I remember seeing reports basically showing the deal was BS and was offered only so Microsoft could say they offered it. It was an astronomical number that Microsoft wanted.
This is news?
We don’t want it. The new devs made it shit. Just look at the complaints. Seriously.
Man I'm tired of hearing about this shit unfollowed.
Pls sony take it
And sony doesn’t want to do it because they’ll lose money 😂😂😂 what a joke
No one wants that service and they know it lol
Call of duty should’ve been free since black ops. They come out with cod every year. All you do is run point and shoot. There’s no strategy into the game. It’s not worth $70+ these days
This does raise the question: is Sony just waiting for the right offer?
That’s crazy and hell I want to see COD come to Nintendo , cause obviously Sony ain’t bust a move for that to happen or prob never had intentions idk.
No.
honestly if sony doesn't accept this its such an L
Bruh and they still haven’t said yes
It is funny how Microsoft says FUTURE call of duty's on PlayStation and they probably put past Call of Duty on xbox gamepass and not ps+🤦🏾
Funny enough Sony doesn't like that. They rather charge ppl full price 'cause they think they make more money that way. A game like cod make more money from micro transactions and battle pass
The reality is Sony desperatly needs CALL OF DUTY to fund there 1st party games and to use that money to block games from coming to gamepass or pay time exclusives or Extra Content for 3rd party games ( hogwarts, call of duty, arkham knight ect)
Yeah at what cost for Sony… Sony is not taking any deal or agreement from MS cos it doesn’t benefit them in anyway.
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But at what cost?!? They need to reveal that too. If they charge full royalties for each download then it would end up an expensive impractical deal for Sony. If expecting your competitor to pay you endless royalties without earning anything out of it is the idea then kudos 😂👎🏻
Sony needs to be humbled right now.
Shame PlayStation are a bunch of chavs and won’t do the same back to us.
Damn Microsoft is desperate
What fuck that.
Sony would never do it. They love money
Meanwhile I’m chilling with popcorn and my Switch 😂
Sony doesn’t want players to have a more affordable option to play Call of Duty. I’m shocked. No longer “for the players”.
Lmfao literally no excuse to refuse the deal
So then what would keep development budgets increasing to make better CODs if nobody has to pay for it except a smaller upfront check and micro transactions? Microsoft is destroying high production games as big budgets cant be recouped thru services unless u have 100M+ subs
Sony is a bunch of clowns
You do?
Bro that’s forcing Sony to lose millions of sales revenue from COD and also pay a huge sum for compensating sales from the subscription. Of course it’s a terrible for Sony business-wise.
Wait so Sony should jump at losing a massive amount of money by putting the game in a subscription service boondoggle. Will Microsoft be subsidizing Sonys losses as well?
They refused!!!! Lmao Sony hates their own fans That would save the average PS player so much money during the life cycle of the generation
Yeah, I wonder if you guys at VGC have also read up on Bethesda being acquired by Microsoft and how that changed in the gaming scape... Saving Face for Microsoft means nothing when they corner the PC/Xbox gaming market
7: (6) is exactly the kind of scenario regulators are trying to avoid having happen and therefore MS offering Sony COD in PS+ Day 1 is not a reasonable remedy and doesn't help Microsoft's case at all.
6: Either Sony starts throwing more and more big 3P & 1P AAA into PS+ Day 1 to match MS (non-sustainable predatory pricing strategy) or they risk customer bleed to MS basically Wal-Marting Sony out of the market.
4: Sony doing so will bleed sales revenue and profits, so money would have to come from other divisions to offset losses. 5: Sony isn't MS, they don't have main pillars that constitute over 95% of net profit so they can't do (4) the way Microsoft can.
And what price were they asking?
It's bad business. 1: Who knows how much Sony'd have to pay to get it in PS+ Day 1. 2: Sony's model is heavily reliant on B2P direct sales revenue, not subscription services. 3: COD in PS+ Day 1 will train customers to want other big 3P & 1P Day 1 in the service.
This would only work if MS gave Sony a percentage of the income...
It gets me wanting to see Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 2022 on another PlayStation 5 bundle
Sony keeps making up fake scenarios of what could happen up. Seems to be working as they keep getting more concessions.
That sounds like a good deal.
Microsoft offering Sony to lose hundreds of millions of dollars and disrupting it's business model by putting call of duty on a subscription service, that only benefits XBOX'S business model
It’s a lose-lose for Sony. Either let Xbox have a consumer friendly advantage in optionality, or pay a huge sum of money to have the same benefit on PS+ and lose sales revenue. PS will likely take option 1. We should evaluate what’s good for consumers and not what’s good for PS
Why would they want this? All this would do is lose everyone money. Where does Xbox think profit will come from? If it’s Day one on PS+ & GP, then who’s buying the game? I stg xbox think that games just make money out of thin air. Why is anyone taking them seriously?
hmm why doesn’t PlayStation want the game that makes them crazy money free on day one I sure wonder
It might suck for gamers but is a bad deal for Sony so makes sense.
No one platform holder should have control of call of duty. it's that simple.
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This is the headline Sony didn't want to see for at least another decade.
idk why Microsoft keeps trying to please those dickheads
PS+ is such a disaster this would actually help Sony.
Sony needs to give it up. Idk y theyre fightin it so hard. Xbox is actually working with them. Like they said you’ll have it for atleast 10 more years. Now this. Also ppl need to understand if Sony could afford it they woulda bought them too. Don’t hate the player. Hate the game
Can we just share COD no one should own it except activition
Keep the copy/paste FPS drama off Playstation entirely!. Having all the trash in one place ( Xbox Bethesda ) is just more efficient 🤣
How much ? , how much they offered to put call of Duty on the Psplus? again it's not free
hold the line sony ! next time Microsoft will Give you the Call of duty ip 😂
Wonder why gamepass is dieing and they closing game studios.
COD is not like it was before, I would prefer Sony to come back with Resistance, it has story, cooperative and multiplayer mode.
One thibg is certain here. If the buyout doesnt happen sony is gonna have like zero working relationship with activision lol
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PlayStation i have Xbox SX & PS5, call of duty might not go to playstation & it's got nothing to do with Microsoft its playstation they dont want Microsoft selling they game on playstation plus because they will make millions. But if sony don't The Cod fans will go to xbox 🤣
Pagando bem, que mau tem?
That's why sony didn't want to do it
If Microsoft is paying licensing cost to put it on psplus
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SOCOM, ARMY OF TWO, BLACK COD
Man Microsoft is like 10 steps ahead of Sony.
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Yeah, because they want SIE's money out of their wallet, not actual sales from purchases...
They do not want without having to pay a minimum of €80. It's the Sony model and that's how it should be. 2/2
That will push Sony to at present they don't want to do that until the love service format works for them in there games going forward
What Sony wants is that you pay them €80 to play and then you also pay for their service to play, with the lowest tier being €14. Everything on your console and also with exclusive content (as now). Microsoft wants you to play on any PC, mobile and other consoles. 1/2
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No one cares about CoD!
Sony would have to shell out big money. It ain’t for free. Might I add
Playstation would lose revenue having COD on its services day one among other games for $120/yr vs. $70 annually for individual sales. This is nothing more than PR for people who can't count or don't know business.
And sony have now shown their customers they're just a payday nothing more. Won't consider putting a game they don't make into their service because they know that ponies won't buy it.
Just give up already Sony
Sony_PS_PC You can't trust MSFT / Xbox... here is the concrete proof.
Microsoft is toooo nice. I’d pull all the Bethesda, Minecraft, COD etc Tony Montana style asap.
That's crazy ❤️
Gotta be a slap in the face of how Sony says Day 1 Gamepass is dumb af.
Which Sony doesn't have money to put games on ps plus day one because Sony would lose money. So Sony has to thank Microsoft. Xbox is better
They should just take the deal already like fr fr I'm tired of hearing about it
I hope Sony just says yes to this. There’s no point in objecting anymore
Then they complained the cost would ruin them 😒 🤣🤣😶
*with sony paying whatever it would cost for that to happen.
Sony:
Love Sony’s energy. Don’t let them acquire Activision. They have enough studios. If Xbox STILL can’t compete, then they need a massive management restructuring, not another massive studio.
Sony screws XBox every chance they get really don't know why Microsoft plays so nice with Sony
Sony could have just made a new SOCOM and let M$ have CoD. RESISTANCE, Killzone just collecting dust lol.
Interesting but we don't know the details of that offer. This is the case with these kinds of headlines. There's a lot Sony and MS aren't telling us for obvious reasons.
'(SIE) has alleged the offer could be reliant on unsustainable licensing costs, which would force it to raise prices.' its literally one of Sonys complaints is licensing cost
Well yea... as long as Sony pays for a license for it... we all know this...
Microsoft doesn't seem to get it Sony doesn't want the game in any subscription services. On the way forward. The only way Sony accepts a deal is game has to be 70 on all platforms. the game must have graphical parity on all playstation hardware....end of story lads
Meanwhile in Sony
We’re giving you the option to sacrifice 20% of your revenue. Now say thank you.
Probably for 1 billion a year, not like they are gonna give it for free .
It's safe to assume, if Sony doesn't take this deal, even they must think their subscription model is trash. EVEN though Sony bought Bungie for this reason alone. Subscription based marketing. The irony is rich.
Sony doesn’t want that though.
Bruh, they're going to literally kill cod lol
Problem is I think Sony would rather have the sales profit than the subscription profit
Wow that's insane
Sony is not gonna take the deal it does not fit there’re own business model.
And Sony PlayStation won’t do it because they want all the profits for themselves. They’ll never take the risk or sacrifice.
and sony still said no everyone can see who the problem is here
Microsoft is so desperate lmaooooo
Ryan be like: “Microsoft wants to destroy all Playstation consoles and kill every single Playstation player in oder to gain absolute market and, eventually, world domination”
4th Microsoft story here since the Starfield delay 👀 them distraction teams are busy
That would be a $300+ Million deal, no way Sony will do that
I understand why Sony is skeptical to do this. As much as I would like it, Sony is simply a smaller company then Microsoft. Some of the things Microsoft can afford to do, Sony can’t. And of course, greed plays a small factor
So free game on ps plus? Wat. No physical, that's asssssss
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And refused 😂
Sony won't fall for this. There is a reason why Sony and Nintendo haven't made their own gamepass after all.
This would be a horrible business decision for Sony to agree. Great for PS Plus subscribers, but brain dead from a business standpoint.
Don't do it
I love the fact that this is such an issue for sony when last decade they have boxed out Microsoft users from exclusive services only available to PS from their exclusive partnerhip with activision.
It'd be dumb if Sony turns this down.
I will rather spend 3000€ on a gaming pc than 400€ on a fucking Xbox. If they think that's the path to surpass Playstation they are so fcking wrong kkkk
HelixPlaysGames
Massive L for all PlayStation fans not taking this deal smh 🤦🏽♂️
Probably the worst choice to sony.
GOD DEAM IT SONY! Take the f**king deal! We need someone to own Activision so COD can get the proper time for the games to be released! Jesus man….just buy EA and when Microsoft wants to pull COD out of PlayStation, you pull the sport games out of Xbox. It’s that simple.
Sony wouldn’t be able to get 30% for just existing then.
how can sony still cry about this shit at this point?
From the article its still 10 years,a thing that Sony didn't agree with
lol call of duty has been sh!t for years now. there are better shooters out there. sony should just come up with their own, use the expertise of bungee
That's the problem if it goes day 1 they do t make revenue wich leads to poor quality this is facts at wich sony can use against the buyout
Then how the fuck is cod gonna make any money if cods free what I'm gonna have to Pau to access the mastery camps fuck no keep it a box model product like halo but do a game every other year
You're a bit behind
Sony looking like blockbuster videos rn
At this point sony gotta let go of the deal. MS are desperate for it and gonna do whatever it takes to get the deal through. Also deal failing will hugely impact their relationships.
Would it be free or Sony would have to pay 100 million a year
What? 😂 They so desperatebotd getting ugly.
Next, Microsoft will offer COD to be PlayStation exclusive.
A courtesy that Playstation has been paying to have denied to Xbox for YEARS for CoD as well as other titles.