released new details
“No users reported the video during the live broadcast,” and it was watched about 4,000 times in total before being taken down, Sonderby said. “We continue to work around the clock to prevent this content from appearing on our site, using a combination of technology and people.” Facebook uses artificial intelligence and machine learning to detect objectionable material, while at the same time relying on the public to flag up content that violates its standards. Those reports are then sent to human reviewers who decide what action to take, the company said, which also outlined how it uses “computer vision” to detect 97 percent of graphic violence before anyone reports it. However, it’s less clear how these systems apply to Facebook’s live streaming.
In another indication of the video’s spread by those intent on sharing it, the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism, a group of global internet companies led by Facebook, YouTube, Microsoft and Twitter,to a shared database used to block violent terrorist images and videos.
starboard_light Why should we believe anyone from facebook?
Go figure! Weirdos don't mind?
taysmithWTVA9 If I saw it I not so saved with technology and most likely could not have flagged it either
We won't change the world by censoring reality.
Did they know how to?
Only 200? Seems low
If I see something like that my first thought isn’t to flag it so moderators can see if it’s appropriate or not. I would call authorities.
Maybe they didn’t know how?
deray They were too busy cleaning their guns.
Totally normal
keep blaming other users. If one was walking in front of a shopping mall, fb would have immediately detected it and shown related ads!
People like to know what happened. Even if it is gruesome they like to know they have access to things and those things should be made available or else you would think they are tryin to hide something. Don't give up the right to knowledge.
I call bullshit on that
All of us
Horrific footage no one deserves to die in such way whilst praying young old no one stood a chance I'm not fond of Islam but we all human may these people R,I,P
Of course not, this is what our society, and social media AND FACEBOOK, has created! Ongoing desensitization to violence, the posting of ANYTHING on social media. What was once simply in a movie is now happening in real time and real life, and it will only get worse.
That’s not their job
They should be put to death...according to NZ law.
No shit. It is either facebook’s responsibility to police their own network, or it is the responsibility of the American government to regulate and monitor them to ensure they don’t behave as bad actors.
Facebook is gutter ... FB claims it has AI to identify revenge porn but no AI to identify shootings. Interesting, that FB is so ignorant ...
That means facebook should just remove live streaming feature at all because it doesn’t have a way to prevent the video being broadcasted. life was fine without it anyway.
Horrifying
Of course, that would require people to have decency, morals and common sense. Such things are rarities today.
I flagged it at least five times on Twitter. I think Facebook is lying about it never being flagged.
They should all be questioned as accessories to a crime.
Those people should be ban from all social media.
I have no faith left in humanity....
The only people who knew he was going live were his fellow Nazis in 8chan.
Anti-social media. 🤢
I haven't seen the video and don't plan to ever, but how did 200 people even see it to begin with?
Disgusting human-beings!!! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
The thought police out in full force
So lets get this straight. Facebook the platform who lived streamed the event doesn't get in trouble but 8Chan does? Kinda makes you think...
I saw it here on Twitter and for awhile thought it was just a fake game.... was terrible!
Disgraceful shame on them have we become that numb to violence? It is real life people were dying it was not entertainment or a movie
deray Yeah bc social has desensitized brains
I think you meant to say “terrorist attack”
J_Dub23_1 It’s about time FB does something about this live streaming
Not their responsibility to do so.
Ban them from Facebook and review any groups they belong to for extremism.
facebook Bad enough Zuckerberg (no dude FB is not your idea) became a billionaire using Harvard University idea, now FB make blood money. NZ mosk attack is the latest due to FB fault! Sorry is not good enough! Hate videos are more dangerous than phonography videos, Idiots!
SICK PEOPLE
They shouldn't have to!!! Twitter flags my post with cuss words right after I post it. Facebook is a failure and stupid people love getting their information stolen
Probably because those who were watching it were specifically looking to view the act. Few rational people hang out watching white supremacist links and feeds.
How did it get onto peoples timelines?It didnt pop up in mine.
I don’t have FB, but why do you need to know that you need to click on three dots? What about. Button that says REPORT? Why 12 minutes after the shooter stopped?
I don't attend any events involve 50 plus people anymore. I don't like being streamed live by anyone.
Disgusting. No decent human being could watch as innocent & defenseless men, women, and children are being slaughtered...knowing it wasn't fake...gross.
Facebook live= new way to get instant fame with drastic actions, imo instant access to broadcast yourself no matter what you are doing to millions (or 200) is a recipe for disaster, I’m sure that wack job was thinking he would have a much bigger viewing audience. Crazy times 😢
Maybe they thought it was “fake”
All the Trump supporters were too busy masturbating to it.
I have on more than one occasion reported videos or photos of violent or explicit post and their stock reply stated they could understand my concern but chose not to act on removing g it.
They were probably in shock, and didn't think to flag anything, they probably got on the phone to call family and friends, shame on AP for writing anything negative about NZ people and how they should act, for a country who isn't used to mass shootings like U.S.
NZ police did though.
if YOU have stumbled across this live footage 1) would you have thought it was real? really? 2) would you know HOW to report it? 3) and if you did know from second 1 it was real would your first reaction be 'hmm, i better submit a report to FB' or would it have been shock?
“Kewl.”
Bystander says they thought other bystanders had already called 911. Shameful.
*FBI open up
Did the have MAGA in their names?
The people watching that *wanted* to watch it - why would they flag it?
They should be found and charged for not flagging this action to Facebook. And Facebook should be sued by the victims for billions for allowing it to be watched by millions of people now traumatized.
Maybe because they realized facebook wouldn’t do anything about, other than provide excuses after the fact. Still-shame on them for even watching. Disgusting excuses for humans.
Do you actually believe Facebook?
AOL had monitors in chat rooms. If you wanted to chat about football you didn't disturb others not interested in football.
And they say Twitter is for degenerates...
it’s probably the same people who were desensitize from years of watching Isis behead people live.
deray Those 200 were likely followers of the white supremacist terrorist, no? Or lingering on pages where Facebook might think they'd like his hate filled live video? I'd say those 200 need investigating pronto...
there’s literally pressure by moderating content teams on users to NOT FLAG CONTENT because that can get the entire group censored. I’m not in alt right spaces but avoiding being zucced is the middle of the horseshoe of Facebook culture
If you know someone is going to commit a crime and dont report it. Does that not make you an accessory to the crime? These people should have their computers seized and scan to see they are not supporting hate.
That’s because people have become numb to mass shootings and violence. Remember the movie A Clockwork Orange?
I hope they save those names
That’s what social media in general has become. Where you check your humanity, values, common sense and dignity at the door before entering. Says a lot about where we are in 2019.
deray Read that again: Facebook says none of the 200 or so people who watched live video of the New Zealand mosque shooting flagged it to moderators. Facebook knows exactly which accounts viewed it. Consider that both for NZ shooting and events from past few years.
Name & shame them.
200 people had the opportunity to potentially help end this horror earlier and to stop his spread of hate. None of them decided to do so. That says a lot about those 200 people.
No facebook was too busy banning accounts for calling someone a name....
Whatever facebook! EyeRoll
This is very disturbing. Frozen in shock 😦
All of those people should be permanently banned but of course they won't do it
Breaking: Facebook realizing internet mostly populated by sociopaths and basement dwellers
Why bother? FB and twitter call the shots anyway. They are biased politically.
'Facebook pulled the video within minutes after the police called.' All right, what's a few minutes? How long does it take for a flagged video to be checked by a reviewer? 'A few minutes' is vague and there's plenty of damage that can be done before it's blocked.
Sick.
That’s how most social media platforms work. They don’t search proactively to clamp down on such videos or posts. They rely completely on user reports
To the moderators? Shouldn’t the moderators be.... oh I don’t know moderating the livestream?
This is really disturbing
Birds of a feather flock together.
A well-trained audience...
Wow I’d hate to be on that weird list lingering around FB
Facebook is just shifting its responsibility to viewers.... Any other excuses? facebook $FB $AAPL $MSFT $GOOGL $AMZN $IBM $ORCL $CRM $TSLA $SNAP $FB WSJ business Reuters BGR
Kitty Genovese all over again.
same reason the last public execution in the US saw a record turn out, its primal...
Do the viewers do the ratings while watching live TV with their kids?
I suspect Facebook is full of shit.
Convenient. Who has less credibility than Facebook PR? Excluding members of the Trump administration, of course.
200 is a little low for a video which was posted 1.5 million times. Perhaps facebook missed some zeros more likely 20,000 or so.
Disgusting
Sooo you can flag people for 'offensive images' or 'hate speech' when they are not but this video didn't get taken down and reported in the first 25 seconds of streaming? Way to drop the ball, Facebook.
Does that also include rupertmurdoch's SkyNewsAust?
Dear me some people...
Probably because they know moderators sit on their asses and do nothing when it comes to violence and racial abuse, but god forbid anyone post an exposed nipple, then they come running to remove it.
To me that means that folks don't believe FB would do anything anyway so why report. Either that or these days FB only appeals to hate watchers looking for a thrill.
Why on earth would any want to watch it? Wait some sick people will. Just report it, destroy it.
Then they should be reported to the police and questioned as to why!
So? Why should the customer do all the work for you? Police your own platform, you're not paying us to do your work.
That's just appalling.
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