The electability business: is Bernie Sanders America's Corbyn?

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Some Democratic observers fear their party is following the British left’s road to defeat

British politics rarely intrudes into a US presidential election. In 1988, Joe Biden was forced to abandon his first bid for the White House after it emerged that he had quoted without attribution a chunk of oratory from the then Labour party leader, Neil Kinnock. In 2016, Donald Trump deployed Nigel Farage as an occasional mascot on the stump, the Brexit victory in that year’s referendum deemed a happy omen that populists could defy the odds and win.

 

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The other way around Corbyn copied Bernie plus where do you think momentum came from?

Not close because the u.k. already has free healthcare and schooling.

doctor_eon The difference is we won't be stupid enough to nominate him. Bet on it.

doctor_eon Absolutely.

Absolutely not. Bernie is the most popular politician in the US, hugely liked and admired, unlike Corbyn. Secondly, Sanders is politically center-left looking from European point of view.

Correct, Sanders will excite some devotees but will not win a national election. He knows deep down but refuses to acknowledge it to the detriment of his party. Like Corbyn his core message is sweet but passe, anathema to too many. Politics is getting power to implement poicies.

yes. Which is why he'll never be elected president

'Sfunny Freedland, the paper edition makes the statement 'Don't get Corbyn'd' rather than asking the question. Also, and typically, this issue was addressed in greater depth in Thursday's nytimes

God help America

Probably.

Exactly what I’ve been saying!

LOL, you can see how those that rule from the shadows have set this game up to mirror itself in both America and the UK...in the UK, your vote doesn't matter, oath of allegiance rigs the 'game'. In America the jacobin infiltrators control central bank and all govt slot positions

MrHarryCole Yes, but perhaps, like Corbyn, the Democrats have to work through it to unite the party ; until Sanders loses the 'Bernie Bros' will not accept it in the same way Momentum didn't here.

First of all Corbyn is an antisemite. Bernie is a Jew. Corbyn is deeply unlikeable whilst Bernie is actually a good crowd pleaser. Hopefully Bernie won’t be as mediocre as Corbyn.

Very probably. That's why he will loose.

MrHarryCole In terms of the result Democrats will get in Nov if he’s nominee, yes

Freedland's pearl clutching goes International

1. No

Yes

No. No he is not.

The key mistake appears to be broadly similar. Trying to increase voter turnout amongst groups that rarely vote rather than concentrating on converting swing voters.

No, he is older

Yes he is.

a very different ball-game jeremycorbyn came to power as a unknown unaccomplished back-bencher due to his Marxist views simply because the media hoodwinked Blairs record as a failure BernieSanders should have faced realDonaldTrump before HillaryClinton last time toe to toe

Sanders didn't beat Hillary Clinton, and he hasn't delivered the surge to the polls that was his hope. He risks winning the battle, but not the war.

Is the US the UK? Duh...!

Hard to imagine writing an article like this and not even mentioning their shared youthful obsession with the USSR and downplaying of Russia's electoral interference in UK and US elections. Easily the most obvious similarity.

Yes.

yes, bit the difference is that we just 'elected' what america had already for the last 4 years, so people had a chance to live under a right winger playing to the pockets of the rich. What needs to change though is how leaders are elected: electoral college, first past the post

MrHarryCole Yes!

Na he's Jewish

Compassionate men who aren't in it for the money and ego but to put right all the wrongs in our society where the filthy rich pay no tax and the guy propping up that rich guy pays taxes yet has no health insurance living on the cliffs edge of debt

The headline is enough for me. What is wrong with the Guardian these days?

Sadly, probably yes.

Worse.

Bush was a great educator/illuminator.

Or Sanders can be what Corbyn wasn't? Meaning, one might think a good idea have another go Corbynismwise? Fear, I smell fear… And it feels good!

God the western media are stupid

Yes. But Sanders does not offer free broadband, nationalisation of utilities or any other lesser objective. He has enough with education, equality and healthcare not to commit that childish error.

MrHarryCole No, not really. But because Bernie would have to run against an incumbent he's unlikely to get the centrist support required to win. But he's far more electable than Corbyn.

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He’s ensuring Trump stays in power just as Corbyn has handed power to Tories.

Why do we talk about the failure of Corbyn, but we hear nothing about how the handful of ‘centrists’ like Macron, Trudeau, or even Merkel are doing. Or just look at the collapse of ‘centrism’ in Israel

Yes , they’re both deluded old geriatric socialists that if you only read twitter would think they’re gonna win an election but in reality both will have been wiped out and rejected at the polls come November

Hope not!

Yes. His purpose is to fracture the left, causing voters to stay home. When you’ve got a nutcase for a president, you don’t suddenly go “hey, it’s time for radical experimental politics in opposition”.

Yes. Both old 70's Castro-Communists

Nah. He's MUCH more fun.

yes

No he’s America’s Bernie Sanders who is a FDR Democrat and a Democratic Socialist like Dr Martin Luther King Jr. He’s American and so are his politics. That’s why he’s the most popular Senator in the American Senate.

Not exactly, no. There are similarities, of course, but they are different personalities and their respective movements are very different. Bernie's is much more diverse, ideologically and otherwise.

Yes. And it’s sad.

No. Bernie hasn't alienated the Jewish population.

Corbyn wasn't too far left. He insulted the working class by pretending they didn't mean their vote for Brexit.

No. Goodness gracious.

No. Because Britain isn't a country and US is

No.

Darn! You were doing so good, Guardian. Until you posted this headline! 🤦🏽‍♂️

Do you mean someone that your newspaper considers an evil worse than Johnson or Trump?

Yes. Greetings from Stalin for both. He would so proud.

If you mean a phenomenal candidate trying to save a dumb country from itself, then yes

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