Stan Grant grew up with the story of his mother meeting the Queen in cast-off socks.abc.net.au/news/queen-death-indigenous-australia-colonisation-empire/101445508When the Queen first visited Australia in 1954, my mother almost did not get to see her.
The school said no socks, no go for the trip to Dubbo to see the Queen. Mum's older brother had made the royal trek a day earlier and met mum at the back fence between the primary and high schools and threw his socks over. Stories of her father being tied to a tree like a dog by police and left all day without food or water to swelter in the sun.
Go away Stan.
What a tragic story, imagine how many pairs of socks your mum might've had if the Queen's ancestor hadn't come along!
Indigenous people, like everyone else, don't have one voice. It's time to ditch the ideology of racial segregation and focus on democracy, equality and the rights of the individual
Look ABC ( Aboriginal broadcasting) ditch your hopeless celebrities, who RANT unceasingly and NO one watches or listen to ,
You are talking absolute crap.
One old white lady dies overseas and the whole country is expected to mourn ,500 people die in prison = not much to see there ! Present day injustice needs talking about ! Black lives matter !
No point of a treaty if they don't shut up about all that ancient crap
ABC should just be privatized at this point. Why are we paying for this crap?
Stolen but worthy
Some (many?) of the Queen's prime ministers in various countries also have a lot to answer for.
“Indigenous Australia can't be expected to shut up” WTF? 🤦🏻 Nobody is telling indigenous Australians to be quiet. They are telling white lefties to shut up!
Sick of seeing this pretentious guy. What is his problem?
Hahah that's what losers do whinge
I think 'the voice' is wrong on moral grounds in that it will enshrine different privileges based on race in our constitution. I would also question if it would be of any actual benefit to anyone.
. Stan you big warrior! Steely photo. Funny. Look at you, with your education, articulation, international experience & national profile... And you talk of racism & oppression? It isn't 1788. It isn't 1954. From no socks to hosting national shows in one generation... .
Stan, If “the anger is not good for (you)” let do yourself and us a favor and let it go FFS!.
I’m an oldish white guy born in UK, This is so important to be acknowledged and discussed. Love your work, don’t relent. Clive
I was yelling just that at a baby born today in Berlin telling her how she deserved to be punished life long because someone she probably has no hereditary link to murdered 6 million Jewish people!
While ever they dwell on wrongs of the past, they will remain there.
How to win friends and influence people. Not. Stan don’t get. People won’t get on board with this sort of negative whinging.
This s how Palestinians felt when their land was forcibly stolen by British gov &givn 2 othrs This s how PALESTINIANS feel evryday fighting 4 their simplst rights on their own land yet thyre abolishd by differnt methds while the world watchs
In other words, there's nothing 'white' people can ever do that will be enough to make up for what some completely unrelated people did to some completely unrelated Indigenous people centuries ago. Aborigines are, apparently, the eternal victims. It's pathetic.
Did the queen tell the school to tell kids 'no socks no go'?
you drongos get on with life them days are gone
You lost the war in 1788 and failed to repel borders. Get over it before someone else tries who won't be as tolerant and forgiving. It's brutal yet that simple. You are NOT beautiful and unique snowflakes. PS: Shut up for a while.
As long as the money flows, right mate?
Wants to play the victim, but quick to accept the $$$$ from the ‘white man’
So no end? What more do you want Stan Grant? When are Aboriginals going to take responsibility for their own situation?
You have every right to feel the way you do but with one exception. The monarchy has been a facade kept in place by the real powerbrokers in England for well over a century as it benefited them. They are responsible for what happened and still are. Liz was just one of their pawns
Thank you Stan Grant
Just saying “our sorry business with the Queen will last a while”!
Stan suffering from verbal diarrhoea again…
I appreciate the story from Stan's mum. A moment of reflection in the passing of an era.
Vitriolic comments here are from privileged uneducated caucasians most of whom haven't travelled their own country let alone the world. A total lack of understanding of the times when monarchy called the shots and atrocities committed for 400yrs. Not easy to forget for everyone!
Congratulations Stan! EXCELLENT PIECE AND 💯 ACCURATE! 👍🏻
Then they should work if they are insistent but, somehow I doubt they will 😅
Interesting piece of self-pity
The sorry business will never end - it is rent free in your head. Build a bridge and move on. You only hurt yourself.
But you stangrant can kick a guest off Q&A for asking a Question about Russia in a Russia-Ukraine Conversation ? How would an Aboriginal-Atrocity conversation go ? Would you kick EricAbetz Politican/Monarchist off the show for sugarcoating the Aboriginal genocides QandA
I wish they would! Vote “No”, that will shut them up
So there is no end game? That’s absurd
Thanks Stan Grant for your witness to the trauma endured by our first people. I’ve been shocked at how easily the discussion on Voice has been overwhelmed by events in the UK. We need articulate and informed people such as yourself to keep this issue front and centre.
This never ending professional grievance will only lead to more division
Sick and tired of the Victim mentality. Why don't people focus on the Domestic violence and abuse in Aboriginal communities. Focus on getting Aboriginal children educated. Move forward and stop the rubbish. Many Aboriginals in Parliament.
A powerful and nuanced testimony. Thank you, Stan Grant.
Where I grew up there was a library with a whole section dedicated to Aboriginal authors. Many thousands of books. They weren’t censored. I think it’s the media thing and the political aspect which changes the mood.
How about admitting the violence of Aborigines towards other Aborigines?
Wonderful op-ed piece. Congrats Stan grant! And here's another perspective on the dire legacy of the Crown and its empire, including the period QEII was its head...
Finally they admit it.
yawn yawn yawn
The problem isn’t taking about a republic, now or any other time. It’s the attempt to past history to guilt people into supporting it. There are valid reasons for moving forward to a republic without divisiveness.
Stan: You rightly defend my indigenous brothers and sisters and, like me, want recognition and reparation for them; but sadly you never castigated the last three governments for their inhumanity and cruelty. You were part of their propaganda.
Stunt Grant didn't have much problem with helping himself to truckloads of white🐈
I think the British Empire did more good than bad.
Ever thought what Australia would be like now if the UK had not of colonised? I'm sure it would be paradise under the Japanese or Chinese colonisers.
Same Shame Shame AlboPM are you not ashamed? Throwing a fellow Australian under the bus? Turning your face away from JulianAssange. Please do the job your supposed to do. Seems your allegiance REALLY lies with the USA. I am too ashamed to call you my Prime Minister.
It's not a great look when you can't respect another culture's sorry business.
Everyone needs to be heard Stan First Nation People,homeless people,kids from dysfunctional families,people that are doing it tough,people with mental health issues You know Stan people growing up in the 50s and come from a dirt poor family we’re also discriminated against
Come on Stan, move on! Enough is enough! Pretty tiring stuff!
Infinite regress. In the meantime more division and resentment.
I'm just surprised he didn't work in 'China good, West Bad' like usual. Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate issues to be dealt with but Stan is not the person to make them and his 'without end' shows his true agenda.
And the more you lot bang on about it the less the rest of Australians care. I recently asked several co-workers, none of who were born in Australia theulir thoughts on the voice. Their response was basically Aboriginals are lazy drunks who subsist on welfare. Good luck with that
Show some respect and you may - just may, get some!
Love your work Stan!
Thankyou team to bring out this story. You are the fourth pillar of democracy and voice for so many whose voices have been suppressed for centuries and decades. Keep up the good work until Australia becomes Republic and snaps all ties with the Monarch.
I feel it’s easy to blame the past, in a way it’s blaming others when what is needed is to look closer to home. If you want effective change then it’s time to start blaming yourself (ourselves) and stop passing the buck by blaming others.
Well stan as you can see no one agrees with your race baiting, you might have the mob behind you on your abc but only far left gaslighting hypocrites watch that poor excuse for a national broadcaster. Disgusting people.
Of course that is how propaganda works. It’s not about moving forward. It’s about living in the past. A past where 100% of us weren’t even alive. Smart it isn’t; profitable it is
It's a bit of a sooky-toned article that white people are paying respect to the queen, while feminists try to corrupt your indigenous voice to parliament.. 🤪
You cannot blame the Queen or 'British Colonialism' for that. If not the British which other European power would have colonised Australia, there are several and none of them enjoy a very good reputation as colonisers. Most were far worse to their indigenous populations.
Lets all call for this guy to resign, Just another Darren Hinch / Rolf
lol
Non indigenous aussies can’t be expected to be sorry forever when they’ve done nothing wrong.
Sorry Stan. It's done. It ain't going back. Get over it. Take responsibility for what happens next. auspol
97% of us are tired of invented truths. Billions of dollars thrown at issues. Little result on some levels. Now elders past present emerging is parroted, so where are the elders? Domestic violence, criminal actions, anti social blatant law breaking. Enough.
nakarithorpe 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
We were poor too Stan. We had to darn our own socks. But you don’t see me blaming the Queen for my past.
Wish there was this much ongoing attention from the ABC and the public in general to addressing horrific and pressing issues like First Nation child and women’s welfare, real poverty and need. All peoples have mourning periods. Not much to be respectful.
Who is expected to say sorry?. The people responsible are long dead.
🙄Replies here-' we cant change the past', as if the journey has ended & racism is over Privileged Australian citz will never get it, dont want to get it & r happy in their selfish world Sadly, this is Australia
Without end ? So, there can be no acceptable list of demands from you that can be satisfied to meet your expectations and you will remain a permanent victim class forever ? Why should we bother trying then ?
All attempts of reconciliation are not good enough for Stan and a few like him. Continually stoking the fire of blame will never achieve anything.
We had ATSIC until Howard silenced it, and a reformed ATSIC is precisely what is needed.
The Voice is there to Silence you, and it has successfully co-opted leading indigenous opinion.
Poverty doesn't see colour, Stan does though, it's his business model. Now he's the guy at the funeral trying to remind everyone of the negative aspects of a person's life when everyone else is trying to grieve + celebrate them. Shut up Stan!
Rather than complaining about colonisation they should be focusing on developing self respect. Alcohol/drug abuse, domestic violence, not wanting to work, refusing to go to school, suicides, incest are swept under the carpet. It’s time to tidy up your backyard first
Stan. Just shut up
This piece of writing will stay with me forever. It is time those of us who feel deeply sorry express this openly rather than quietly. Enough now, of our racist, colonial identity.
can we have billOfRights first? or we are still slave to the UK
Mrt48Carol Stan seems to be dismissing the need for A Voice. Yet that's the start of exactly what he is claiming is needed! To be heard. If he doesn't support the Yes vote in the referendum he's being self defeating. He needs to sort that out .
Thankyou Stan..
Every time I see Stan he seems to look darker 😔 The average Aussie indigenous couldn't care less. If the truth be known they would only care where the next drink is coming from. Our indigenous population is about 1million. They have 11 senators in parliament. See 2
'without end'. Thanks for clarifying.
So sad you feel that way, however there is a time and this is not the time. You scream and shout you want respect and equal rights (which are given) BUT you fail to reciprocate. Youcannotchangethepast but you can have a positive inspiration on the future
Stan's best writing is when he writes as an aboriginal man.
As a white person I feel somewhat sad about the Queen's death, but I absolutely understand what you are saying and where you are coming from. Continue the good fight for your people.
And right on cue here comes Stan. ‘My people’. There’s the problem right there. It’s about groups, races, colours, tribes, faiths, genders and off we go. If I said to Stan, why aren’t you with ‘Your people.’ They just don’t get it. Dear oh dear...
BelindaJones68 White people losing there shit rn over a brown person saying they want to be heard.
Usual pathetic attention-seeking drivel from ‘Look at Me’ Stan.
*yawn* yeah that stuff other people did was admittedly not very nice.
Sad to see Stan join the gang of tin-lid bangers. You ask for ongoing respect to resolve the issues you feel are important, yet you can not reciprocate. A funeral is the time to resolve deep issues in your family? A few weeks for an issue of over two hundred years making?
Powerful writing. Australia is fortunate to have articulate and successful indigenous journalists like Stan Grant. Amidst the wall-to-wall public grief making its a breath of fresh air to hear a voice like Stan Grants disabuse us of the myth of the British Empire.
Why does Stan Grants skin keep getting darker?
Such a powerful piece of writing.
The country has been talking about this for decades and that suggests talking resolves nothing. Less talk, more action, not rattling the tin either. Because that has not worked. First nation leaders need to be held to account by their people for the money they waste.
Thanks Stan for sharing your family's story. A shame that few of the responders to this have really read the article, which was clearly painful to put into words.
As a white mother, I want my kids to read this. Today. Annually. I don’t want them too frail from their own privilege to hear truth. I know the pile-on of trolls that’s coming won’t feel the same way. And I’m sorry.
So a VoiceToParliament will achieve nothing because demands by indigenous leaders will be “without end!”
We can't right the wrongs of the past. It's how it was back then all over the world? There comes a time. For mine..Republic. Break away from the monarchy. A new voice in the constitution, a new flag, a new Australia day date to celebrate..all inaugurated with an indigenous imput
“Without end”. Now the truth is coming out. Reconciliation is a myth! There is too much money and power in never being reconciled. Does anyone actually think indigenous leaders will say one day that’s its happening. We are reconciled. VoiceToParliament
Have we reached the the ultimate stage of absurdity where some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while other people are not held responsible for what they themselves are doing today
The sorry business you talk about has been perpetrated since time began all across our globe including my ancestors who were transported to this country with their own horrific tale. Mass migration whether forced or not is still going on today with sometimes horrific consequences
Then why are you begging to be in the white constitution? Make your own constitution and then go for reparations.
Whilst I feel for Stan and even agree with him on his politics. Stan also needs to examine his own censoriousness on Q&A when he allowed the person who said they were pro-Russian to be removed from the studio..
More community programs on empowering youth, building a better sense of belonging and cohesive bonds within said communities.Addressing crime and drug abuse with help from elders with obviously greater vigour as whatever is in place is not working. Future focus not the past
Stan for GG. He knows everything. Sorry President.😁
Thank you, Stan Grant, for speaking up, and to ABC for publishing this. Voices like yours have been sadly absent from this whole discussion.
Still getting blamed 200+ years later
They’ll keep being perpetual victims in order to get Government welfare/assistance. Even though their quarrel should be with their ancestors.
On being born into social or economic disadvantage and the means of rising above, Stan, there is no difference between black or white or any colour in between. The sooner we accept this, the sooner we stop finding ways to hate each other. Self esteem and maudlin: break the cycle.
this voice idea is not going to be excepted by all......its time to get an universally excepted idea
If their ABC says so. 🤡🌐
Much of it self-inflicted. Sexual & physical abuse rife, child neglect endemic, generational welfare dependence… all issues for decades & right now caused by indigenous ppl. The focus on 200 yrs ago is a complete cop out.
BritishEmpire Indigenous Australia
Professional victim class.
Another professional victim living a millionaire lifestyle….