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The Section 194 Parliamentary inquiry into suspended Public Protector Busisiwe Mkhwebane’s fitness to hold office entered its fourth week with four witnesses testifying.

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Zungula refuses “I am going to continue chairperson, we can’t allow you to treat us in a way that is not consistent, if you were consistent this…That is why I am going to address you.”Zungula asks: “Remove me for what?”EFF Leader Julius Malema entered the fray also from the virtual platform to rise on a point of order, coming to the defence of Zungula

In response: “Peter thanks, I have raised concerns with the Speaker mainly because Parliament is aoversight institution to which the Public Protector as an institution, reports for its budget expenditure as well as its operations.

Samuel: “Chair, I have testified that when I drafted that affidavit to the Speaker it was to initiate an investigation, and so, when I got the acknowledgement from the Speaker’s office, it said the matter has been referred to the Portfolio Committee and that is the committee I thought was going to determine given the fact that we report to that committee, that was the committee that I thought was being referred to by the Speaker and the media that was covering the issue sat the time.

“There was so much that was said about me when I was an accounting officer, so it became important that I come and clarify to this committee those issues that were raised about me,” he told evidence Leader Nazreen Bawa. “If Mr Mahlangu can take us into his confidence, that as much as some of the staff was suspended some of them, I would use some chair, – has the office followed all the due processes of suspending and charging and investigating those particular staff members? The last chair is that it is alleged that Mr Mahlangu and his office has confiscated laptops of some of the managers in the office of the Public Protector, such that there is information that we would have required as the committee that we...

Mahlangu: “Subject to whether the PP is incompetent or not, I will say straight it’s no. Me in my administrative duties I would leave investigations, I got guidance, I learnt a lot from PP, I got guidance. She is a hard worker. I don’t even know that she sleeps, because I would look at e-mails, things that needs to be done and then we would just work. Work-work-work. I think she is a hard worker.

“She will testify that on the 18 of February 2019 soon after she started at the PPSA, she received a text from the PP that reads as follows –She will of course say she interpreted that to mean that she should not trust you. But my question to you – do you know any reason why the PP would issue such a warning about you, do you know what this related to?”, Mayosi asked after reading the text message.

Tebele: “What I will say is what I know, not that I actively participated in it. When Mr Neshundhzi came back from, I would call it from the suspension, there was a report that I did not have preview to. And apparently in that report there was recommendation that he be moved. I haven’t seen the report. But I was approached by the former CEO Mr Mahlangu.

DA MP Kevin Mileham asked Neshhundzhi: “What protocols are in place in the Public Protectors Office and I’m talking about the broader institution of the Public Protector to handle and store confidential information?” Neshundzhi told the inquiry that he was placed on what he called “garden leave” after dissatisfaction with the way he had handled a security breach following an investigation.

Nshundzhi: “I will have to confirm but it was shortly before he left because I drove to the security…errr Musanda in the evening”Pillay faced questions about his retirement, his rehiring at SARS and the so-called rogue unit. As Pillay concluded with Bawa ahead of his cross examination by Mpofu, he made a statement about how an investigation by the Inspector General of Intelligence ended up focusing on SARS. He mentioned that a media article was the basis for the initial investigation by the IGI:Investigation has revealed the existence of the special operations unit of the SSA where a rogue agency used state resources to conduct dirty trick campaigns, smuggle cigarettes and disgrace top civil servants.

 

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