At times we need to speak against certain things, not because we just want to be seen to be argumentative or smart, but the purpose must be to address the principles of whatever nature. As a basis of my argument, my view is that two wrongs do not, and will never, make a right. Hopefully, the people who are dealing with intelligence issues understand that what we see in the media should not be happening.
Not even under Donald Trump, who was seen as a maverick and erratic in his approach, were the works of American spies and operatives, including covert human intelligence, direct surveillance, communications data, intrusive surveillance, bulk personal data, equipment interference, etc., available for reckless public discussion.
Lapses in oversight and maladministration at SSA and similar bodies remain the responsibility of Parliament. It is therefore a huge mistake to either make public the nature of information that appears in the 2018 high level review report, or what is currently being presented at the Zondo Commission. The underlying principle is that intelligence operations should never be on public display.
Therefore, the intelligence community works with all structures of state, including the police, defence and other institutions to ensure the material and immaterial safeguarding of national interests. These interests can be security, political, economic and more. Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence is one of the best in the world because it has an excellent understanding of the country’s security requirements.
It is quite disturbing that the ANC’s wars have become zero-sum games where people are prepared to go to great lengths not just to destroy one another, but also to annihilate the state that some in the battles claim to save. The notion of state of capture always promised to wreak havoc, but no one ever predicted that it was going to be a political trial where the ANC would be exposed for what it really is.
I know this is an opinion piece but playing to the zeitgeist of this piece and its unfortunate timing. Is it me or does Hadebe Hadebe sound like one of those captured journos secretly hired by the SSA (as shown by the Zondo Commission)? But then again let me tool😅
Hadebe, bumbling like the GOP in the USA is the same way you are trying to cover up the wrongdoing of the ANC & spies & crooks in the SSA. You call reporting on stealing&corruption in SSA'giving out state secrets.' Ppl like Mufamadi should be commended, ppl like you be charged!
Rot must be let bare. Those who abused SSA are the ones suited for treason.
It's quite easy 2 see why SA is a failing state. Ppl who consider themselves smart can blv crap like this. Criminal behavior shouldn't be exposed simply coz it involves intelligence officials? Any intelligence outfit worth the title wouldn't find the info given by SM worth a dime
And its actually called 'intelligence' service. Bit of a stretch
Looting should be kept a secret neh, what a fooliah thing to say.
Corrupt people secrets.....
Desperate wrong minds are always a problem to an emancipation of black child. And they are always given platform to destroy whatever that is left. 😠
Chair of commission Zondo ruled against the minister regarding this secrecy rubbish, Didn't you hear that ?
Whatba poor opinion. The commission subpoenaed him.
Let me keep quiet, the comments here we twitt among idiots and dangerous people who don't care about humans. Their heart and soul is fixed on money that's what moves them. Immigodoyi camouflaging by the name corruption. 🤦🏿♂️
Reporters these days have such conviction. I am not disagreeing.
Surprisingly according to the Independent Media Group Sydney Mufamadi should arrested for telling us that The independent Media group has been funded by SSA.
Nqobzin20 Together with Zondo
That will never happen, you called for the truth and there it is.
If you don't have anything better to write about Hadebe Hadebe, just shut up, and stop irritating us! Any information can be declassified if it's in the best interest of the country. According to you which information has put the security of the country at risk?
Corrupt people are not a representation of the country’s secrets. It’s the thieves that must be arrested for taking advantage of the country’s intelligence services
ThembaJef Stealing is not state secrets. In fact those who worked there without proper checks or vetted should be arrested for trespass.
But the process was followed to ensure that the information was ready for public consumption.
bongzmessi Clever blacks
You are very Mad, shame
No it's about time things that happened and swiped under ANC's capped be revealed. We hv right to know everything....which means Sydney Mufamadi was 100% quite right to reveal all. I still wish more can come forward.
Is this article taken from the charge sheet filed by Arthur Fraser?
You fucking thugs, you stealing our money must be state secret? Who are you people?
The ANC top 6 and other cadres, should be arrested and charged with treason for looting South Africa into bankruptcy.
Iol news should be banned and closed down
Banana republic. CIO would have visited Him already and we would be talking lost person.
Hadebe hadebe must respect us
According to your opinion corruption must be kept a secret,awuhlekisi,uyaghabisa
And then criminals at SSA should be left alone? O tlhapetswe
This affirms what Mufamadi was concerned about: abusing secrecy requirements to pillage State resources.
Only an imbecile doesn't knw dis!☝🏾🤞🏾
KhandaniM Looting is state secret? Nxa
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Hadebe Hadebe should ask for a refund from his educators. This is a baseless article protecting and condoning corruption. SSA is not immune from being probed for corrupt activities.
😂 the Ickballs shills are earning their PIC pay today
SSA beneficiary journalists have spoken 😎
LandNoli Because even media us involved in this corruption
...Survee seems to be having a problem reading the room!
Yeses🤭
Hadebe Hadebe you are farting
Looting is state secrets?
Hebana looting taxpayers money is a state secrete. Drumming up ways to loot taxpayers money by creating bogus operations is secrets
What he is doing is Dangerous for our country
But it was not treason when you handed our country to Guptas, Hadebe sit down please. You guys hate this country
The owner of media organization carrying this story should be arrested and charged for PIC and SSA corruption he’s a shameless individual the less said about contributors to the titles the better
Is it because journalists also got bribed and your SAEditorsForum most protected and feared journalists were named?
SSA doesn't work in isolation, it also works with other intelligence agencies from other countries. If our state security Agency airs up it's dirty laundry like this in a public platform, it puts our country at risk as other agencies might not want to work with us
No serious person will take any report from the SSA agents seriously IqbalSurve pietrampedi mailandguardian JvanLogg
If any govt employee has secrets that are against it’s people, treasonous, unconstitutional, damaging + against the very people they are PAID + swore an oath to protect + serve, it is their duty to report + expose it! What part do many citizens not understand about civil SERVANTS
KhandaniM Well ONCE an askari-informer, ALWAYS an askari-informer.They have NO CONSCIENCE because after all, they send people to unnatural deaths. So what they are doing now is what they have always done, SELL OUT.
Who owns IOL?
Hadebe Hadebe must go to hell
A delinquent president must be charged for treason for giving Gupta family presidency'powers
Gentlements Who is hunted now?
And pravin aswell
Surely the information was declassified before Mufumadi released it?
Please man, as if we have intelligence in this country!
Mxm this just a perpetuation of Project Wave. This is a nonsensical analysis.
what the fuck is this masquerade?
Well said
Much better that the R20 million gifted to Iqbal by the SSA and their other crimes be kept a secret.
I took the time to read this nonsense so you don't have to suffer. He doesn't mention what state secret, secret agent or collection method was exposed..Not even one. This is basically the main argument.
Ret reporter
How is revealing money was stolen a state treason?
_AfricanSoil Mufamadi proved more than once that he may have served apartheid SA. He may have been sent first to spy n expose it all since his apartheid handlers didn't know what was happening under Zuma.
He expose the corruption in the unit. What secrets. Instead of operating as a secret service, you pay yourself monthly stipends
They thought the meaning of state security means looting without being questioned
The writer's view of intelligence is so 20th century. SM didn't give out any state secret. At best, he was merely depicting what's found in other state organs. So-called analysts should instead educate the general public/the voter further about the debilitating state of affairs.
It's stupidity.
Hows people stealing money from the SSA budget state secrets. They need to be exposed. Hopefully after this proper governance will be followed.
🤣🤣🤣Africa News Agency konje received 20M from SSA.
This is rubbish, waste of time. Propagandism at it’s worst, huffing and puffing without direction. No compelling argument as why corruption should remain secrets.
A president who steals money and trains a private army must be tried for treason
What state secrets? Oh, you mean, how you guys where funded, and how there was an open door to steal state cash under the veil if secrecy..... Pray tell, how exactly did you buy influence to get the PIC billions?
Abolish the bastards
Unfortunately the Arse Ngr Criminals give a shit !
mxim
Corruption is not secrets