Barry Diller says Apple 'overcharged in a disgusting manner' his companies on App Store

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For large companies, Apple takes a commission rate of 30% on in-app transactions; for certain smaller developers, the company recentlyApple did not respond to a CNBC request for comment about Diller's remarks, but it has steadfastly defended its policies, saying thegoes into maintaining and securing the App Store in a way that ultimately benefits app makers.

"The idea that they actually justify it by saying, 'We spend all this money protecting our little App Store,'" Diller said. "I mean, it's criminal. Well, it will be criminal."focused on the App Store brought by Epic Games, which makes the widely popular video game Fortnite.'s Google, which runs the Google Play app store for Android devices.

Diller took aim at the way Apple forces in-app transactions to flow through the App Store's payments system. Because Apple provides the payment system, he said, the best comparison for Apple is a credit card company, which typically takes around a 2% fee on transactions."Match, little Match.com, pays $500 million a year to Apple to go through their store.

"I believe that, when you get to sufficient size, regulation is good. I grew up in the television business, which was regulated completely by the FCC and really tight regulations. Everybody, by the way, prospered to say the least," said Diller, the former CEO of Fox and Paramount Pictures. "I think regulation, proper regulation, makes sense. I don't want to bust them up. I don't think that that's such a smart idea, but when you have size and power, you've got to have regulation," he said.

 

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